r/Damnthatsinteresting Aug 03 '22 Gold 1 Wholesome 14 Helpful (Pro) 1 Helpful 11 Silver 11 Take My Energy 1 LOVE! 1 All-Seeing Upvote 2 Starstruck 8 Narwhal Salute 2 Wholesome Seal of Approval 1 'MURICA 1

Jon Stewart immediately after passage of the PACT act: “It feels good. Shouldn’t have been this hard.” Image

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u/Robot_Clean Aug 03 '22 All-Seeing Upvote I'll Drink to That

At the press conference afterward he said a few sentences and then just sort of melted into the crowd and disappeared. He played his role to get this thing in the public eye, and then let everyone else revel in the success.

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u/bubbaliciouswasmyfav Aug 03 '22

What a fucking legend!

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u/StarrylDrawberry Aug 03 '22

Truly. We need this guy to get involved more. Hate to have to ask him for that, but we need it now more than ever.

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u/StarrylDrawberry Aug 03 '22

I believe he wanted more time with his family for a while there. The country's outlook wasn't as bleak then. I'm just gonna keep my fingers crossed.

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u/BoosherCacow Aug 03 '22

The country's outlook wasn't as bleak then

It saddens me that I was about to dispute you and stopped when I realized how right you are. It is worse, it's that I have totally checked out on following the outside world and focused utterly on my kids and mom and staying alive, I even stopped dating 3 years ago. It's been three years since I got laid. Holy fuck. Anyways back to blissful ignorance!

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u/Bluegi Aug 03 '22

He is still doing The Problem with Jon Stewart. He is analyzing things and raising important topics, I just feel it's a lot more low key.

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u/not_gonna_lurk Aug 03 '22

Was that...a sailor moon reference?

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u/ObliviousCollector Aug 03 '22

We don't deserve it and honestly it's fucked up to consider asking at all. It's soul crushing to face the meat grinder of moneyed interests, malevolent obstructionists and apathy you can literally see it weighing on him, killing him slowly everytime he gets involved. If we want better we need to start facing that meat grinder ourselves, otherwise we don't deserve positive change. We can't expect someone like him to stand up for us and take the soul crushing in our stead although he's done work that would make Superman feel inadequate he's not a super hero and it's so unfair for us to try to put our futures on his back. He's already a living saint for what he's done, let him inspire us but don't you dare ask him for more.

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u/NoDownsideToOutside Aug 03 '22

He shows up when American heroes need him most. Then he disappears so they can be celebrated not him. They put their bodies and lives on the line for the richest country in the world, he seems to truly embody the debt owed to these men and women time and again.

I just wish there was a picture of him smiling smugly while Fatty Cruz or Randy Paul were exiting like he had with Mooch McConnell

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u/mfishing Aug 03 '22

Someone (everyone) give Jon a fist bump.

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u/Negative_automony Aug 03 '22 edited Aug 03 '22

Someone (everyone but Theodore Cruz and his pals) give Jon a fist bump.

Edit: punctuation.

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u/Piriguetinha Aug 03 '22

Rafael*** Cruz

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u/sybersonic Aug 03 '22

Rafael*** Cruz

Cancun Cruz

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u/liv2kik Aug 03 '22

Piece of shit Cruz!!!

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u/Lucky_Number_3 Aug 03 '22

I’m going on vacation while many of the citizens die of poor infrastructure Cruz.

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u/abcdefkit007 Aug 03 '22

That was the exact gif I was hoping for

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u/KarmaPharmacy Aug 03 '22 Helpful Wholesome Faith In Humanity Restored Starry Heartwarming I'll Drink to That

I know Jon will never see this… but as someone who is married to a veteran who has health problems from those burn pits — the future is now a little less terrifying. Thank you. We needed someone strong and courageous to fight this fight.

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u/quesnt Aug 03 '22

Here he is 20 years later, fighting like not one day has gone by. I remember seeing Jons statement when his show returned for the first time after 9/11. The opening was very serious and genuine and I always think about that and replay it in my head when I see him out there advocating for first responders or vets like this.

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u/KarmaPharmacy Aug 03 '22

I remember that episode. I was a kid and had never been to New York. I couldn’t really comprehend the full context of what had happened and I couldn’t really fathom how many people had died or that everything was going to be different. I’d never even seen buildings that were as tall as the WTC.

That episode & Jon Stewart made me understand.

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u/chookatee2019 Aug 03 '22

I feel like it should be built into the law that 10% of all military spending must be put aside for veteran benefits. Otherwise they'll keep getting ignored.

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u/Bullen-Noxen Aug 03 '22 edited Aug 03 '22

The worst part is the bad people will use that as an excuse to inflate the military budget by 10% to offset the cost of that. They literally miss the fucking point of taking funding elsewhere & putting into coverage for veterans. You literally have to tell those fuck heads flat out, “hey, you’re paying for this. It is not being subsidized. & if you fight like hell to not pay for it, we’ll cut off your funding till 1 of 2 things happens. You cave in & start paying this from the funds we already give you. Or 2, you die, thus no more funds will ever go to you ever again. Then we will get someone else to do your damn job, with the same budget; only they are not an asshole, & will set aside 10% to be intended for veterans.” Because I can guarantee you, that some fucker out there will still try to spin this shit, so as to not let this go unscathed. The problem is not that those people exist. They will exist either way. The problem is nothing of significance is done towards people who think in that vile opportunistic manner. That’s the real problem.

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u/ImNotAWhaleBiologist Aug 03 '22

Good point. They must've lied since they got past our screening process-- now we can get them on fraud.

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u/TheBirminghamBear Aug 03 '22

I just dont get it. Every other civilized nation gives totally free healthcare to everyone.

And here we are making veterans fight and claw a massive bureuacracy without even a guarantee?

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u/Bluegi Aug 03 '22

And prove it when the culture is not to report injury/ rough it out when they are in. Therefore they don't have the documents to back it up.

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u/jdjvbtjbkgvb Aug 03 '22

It's absolutely disgraceful the way US treats everyone else as well. It is in everyone's best interest to fix homelessness, drug problems and healthcare, among other things, in general! This case is just a drop in a sea of disgrace called USA. Vote vote vote! Vote for basic human rights such as healthcare and public education.

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u/dacreativeguy Aug 03 '22

Turns out nobody really needed to be in Iraq at all. Just saying…

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u/Katiari Aug 03 '22

I was at work when the Towers came down. I was a banker. I'll always remember the guy who came in and was all in a hurry and needed a checking account set up. I told him what was going on thinking he didn't know, and he said, "It doesn't affect me, let's get a move on this account. I gotta get going."

Whenever I wonder if a human being can lack all sense of humanity I just remember that one guy. It still makes me incredibly sad to this day.

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u/RexBosworth69420 Aug 03 '22

This reminds me of how on that day, it was after 1st period in high school for me, and everyone was in the cafeteria watching it happen on TV. Faculty even came and turned it up for everyone, all just staring in bewilderment. Except for my one friend Derek, who literally was the only person facing the other way, sitting at a table and hurriedly trying to finish an assignment that was due. I told him "Dude, are you even watching this? I don't think that's really gonna matter today", and it didn't, as nobody was able to focus that day and teachers basically let us have a free day where we watched the news in every class and had discussions about war, terrorism, etc.

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u/deathcupcake25 Aug 03 '22

I remember being in high school and some boys who were sitting around me in my freshman English class were laughing at the people who were jumping off the towers. When I got home, I just sat and cried because of how cruel some people can be.

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u/Maleficent_Tie4767 Aug 03 '22

“Doesn’t affect me”. I suppose that’s true when there’s a black, gaping maw where a soul should be…

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u/Higuysitsmehenry Aug 03 '22

There are apparently plenty of people that way. A guy at my work is exactly that way. Nothing applies to him and just 100% selfish. Sad

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u/TheFcknVoid Aug 03 '22

lol that guy is more than half of Wall Street types.

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u/Humantronic_3000 Aug 03 '22

The problem with people like that is they're always wrong.

It will always affect them, the same way it affects everyone and in ways most will never recognize. Even so... in the end, none of us make it out of here alive.

It's best to at least try to exercise a little bit of kindness to everyone who isn't us, especially those that probably don't deserve it the most. That said, what kindness looks like isn't always what most would immediately suspect.

I just might've asked the guy to wait in a private office, treating him like a king... then (whoops) "forget" about him while a few other customers were handled in the meantime. He'd get his damned checking account soon enough. With luck and a few unfortunate miracles, that guy just might've recognized the kindness a few years down the road.

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u/Shayedow Aug 03 '22

That guy is 35% of the American population, and they want to act like that moment is the reason they care, when in fact, they do not care about that moment, they just co-opted it to go " We need to do what WE want because of this...... BECAUSE WE CARE! "

I remember where I was. I was youngish, 22, a few months away from meeting my wife, I was working as a bar waiter for a famous hotel, living in the Catskill Mountains about 2 hours away from the city, but I had THAT day off. I was just at my computer, playing a game. I honestly think it was UO ( Ultima Online ) and I read someone say something that I didn't understand. Then someone else, followed by a lot of TURN ON YOUR TV. So I did.

I was watching the first plane footage, the 2nd plane had not hit yet. It then went live and I watched in horror. I watched live as all this happened with me not even 2 hours away, and when the 2nd plane hit, there was only one thing that went through my mind :

My ex-fiance that I was engaged to for almost 2 years that had just left me 2 months ago for family religious reasons ( I am an Atheist and she is a devote Catholic ) was living in NYC at the time. I tried calling her and got no answer, her parents, no answer. As I watched the horror unfold all I could think of was she safe. Eventually I got in contact with a mutual friend, who was able to contact her, and I learned everything was ok. I STILL remember 9/11 just becuase I remember how much I did in fact love her, and she was the only thing I thought of that day.

Less then 6 months later I met my wife online in a Yahoo Chat room, and now, going on 20 years later, I'm ok with it. But that fact that all I cared about at that moment of 9/11 was my ex, really showed me where priorities lie.

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u/Workwork007 Aug 03 '22 edited Aug 03 '22

I live on the opposite side/hemisphere of the world from the US but when 9/11 happened, it was aired on TV locally and we kept getting new footage of what was happening. I was around 12 years old and I had a very lucid moment while my eyes were glued on TV; "Something changed", I thought and I felt that to my core.

Only half a decade later would I understand the magnitude of what happened, Jon Steward brought back that feeling I had and validated it.

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u/replieswithfullquote Aug 03 '22 Helpful (Pro)

Here he is 20 years later, fighting like not one day has gone by. I remember seeing Jons statement when his show returned for the first time after 9/11. The opening was very serious and genuine and I always think about that and replay it in my head when I see him out there advocating for first responders or vets like this.

Here ya go

And I thank him. And thank you for reminding me of this.

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u/Dunwithit4589 Aug 03 '22

Thank you for posting that. I saw that when I was 13. The attack affected me but I live in Missouri so I was removed from the emotion of it. I knew it was bad but it didn’t really hit me until I saw Jon talking about it and putting it into perspective for the average American, even the young ones. It still makes me tear up 21 years later

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u/Boricuacookie Aug 03 '22

"There are men who struggle for a day, and they are good. There are others who struggle for a year, and they are better. There are some who struggle many years, and they are better still. But there are those who struggle all their lives, and these are the indispensable ones. Bertolt Brecht

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u/BruceSerrano Aug 03 '22

In what ways did they need to change the bill in order to get it passed?

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '22 edited Aug 03 '22

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u/Pain--In--The--Brain Aug 03 '22

So it was

overwhelming public scorn

... wasn't it. Those mother fuckers fist bumping on TV. It was indefensible and they knew it. Their option was to fold or get run over. I'm almost sad they're unprincipled, spineless shitheels. We might have had something to plaster all over TV for the next 4 months (sorry swing states).

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u/dirtdiggler67 Aug 03 '22

That footage still needs to be used

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u/datameshlearning Aug 03 '22

As far as I'm aware and have seen, literally nothing from the previous vote last week. That's why it doesn't have to go back to the House for a vote. They even said the reason they were doing it was they wanted Democrats to look bad after they came out with a bill they didn't like that gets around the filibuster rule and after they passed a big other bill the previous week (CHIPS Act).

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u/ResolveLeather Aug 03 '22

It was some weird clarification with regional providers. Just a small correction honestly. Everyone thought it would pass in the Senate again after it was corrected. I think the republicans wanted to try to embarrass the democrats before the midterm. "They screwed up on a bipartisan bill and weren't even capable of passing the bill when they have the majority" ploy. It kind of backfired though.

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u/manski0202 Aug 03 '22

Nothing changed in the bill besides even Veterans group who vote Republican shaming them.

Republican Party could very much be in trouble come midterms. Specifically due to Roe V Wade. You should check out the amendment vote in Kansas today.

Kansas Abortion Vote

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u/0blivi0nPl3as3 Aug 03 '22 Burning Cash

The dog that caught the car

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u/B10kh3d Aug 03 '22

This Kansas thing really surprised me.

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u/lostmylogininfo Aug 03 '22

I'm in Florida and I was like "Fuck did you see what Kansas did?"

Wife just goes "we're not moving to Kansas.". Lol

We may move though if it gets much worse though.

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u/meliketheweedle Aug 03 '22

As someone with a step dad who's got massive PTSD and COPD from 9/11+ rebuilding, John's work on the zidroga act also helped him get help for those things. He's definitely a hero to me.

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u/KarmaPharmacy Aug 03 '22

I love him for that, too. And that fight wouldn’t have been won without Jon. Disabled people typically don’t have the ability to fight for their cause. A lot of the time you’re just surviving and are pretty home bound.

Give your dad a hug for me.

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u/RangerDangerfield Aug 03 '22

I hope Jon Stewart runs for political office someday.

I know he doesn’t want it, which is why he’s perfect for the job.

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u/Hatedpriest Aug 03 '22

It is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it... anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.

Douglas Adams, Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy book 2, the Restaurant at the End of the Universe.

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u/Vitruvian_Link Aug 03 '22

I've been so torn over going to the protests. My wife recently died of her cancer, and I've been so upset over the blockage. The only reason I didn't go is her funeral is this week and of course I can't miss it.

My congressman has invited me to the signing ceremony, but the white house needs to accept as well, so I hope I get to go to DC in my wife's stead. I am so happy it passed, but I will never forgive the Republicans that play politics with everyone's lives.

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u/KarmaPharmacy Aug 03 '22

I’m so sorry for your loss. Are you doing ok?

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u/Vitruvian_Link Aug 03 '22

I'm surviving.... Widowhood, especially young widowhood, is not something you can prepare for, but Ive prepared as much as possible. Katie was sick for three and a half years, and during that time we prepared mentally and financially for her death. Her cancer has a 100% mortality, so we knew it was certain.

But the woman I've loved for 20 years, since I was 16, is dead. Everything I've done in my adult life has been for her, from my masters degree to my career, my house, the car, and even the pets.

The sense of loss and loneliness cannot be put into words... The nights are the worst, having an empty spot in the bed that she will never warm again. Sometimes I sleep fine, last night I woke with a dream kissing her good morning and woke with a smile. Other nights are nightmarish beyond reason, I'll wake up screaming after only two hours of sleep.

I did everything I could to keep her happy while she was sick, I worked so hard I literally had a heart attack, no comorbidities, just grief and stress. But despite that I can't shake the feeling that I failed her.

No, I'm not OK, I've fallen into a nightmare I can't wake from. But I've so far not succumbed to suicide ideation, and even though the future is uncertain (I don't know if I'll ever return to work), I do have plans for the future, and I'm pretty sure I have capacity to love again, so that keeps me going.

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u/KarmaPharmacy Aug 03 '22

I’m so sorry. I don’t know you, but I know you didn’t fail her. You’re only human. You did everything in your power to take care of her. Everyone is imperfect and everything is imperfect. I’m just so glad you two had each other. Some people go their entire lives not knowing this depth of love. And she’s still out there. Somewhere. Loving you back. The separation of life from death is so cruel. But for some reason, we’re made to experience it.

Hang in there. The body and mind can heal. I know it feels like the pain will never stop. But it will.

It’s important not to force it. Eventually, life will become tolerable again. And then, eventually, you’ll be able to feel joy again. It’s going to take a while. But you’re going to be ok.

You don’t know what this life has in store for you. Live it. So you can tell her everything that you saw. Bring her with you. You never know, maybe if you’re two halves of the same soul, she can see through your eyes.

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u/LadyCharis Aug 03 '22

This is beautifully expressed. <3

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u/Bravovictor02 Aug 03 '22

Right!? Thank you for your partners’ service.

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u/KarmaPharmacy Aug 03 '22

Thank you. He doesn’t like to be thanked or really reminded of his time there. He’s a combat veteran and saw some awful stuff.

I’ve figured out the best way to thank him is to never bring it up unless he does.

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u/Ghostly_Warpig Interested Aug 03 '22

As a vet I can feel the awkwardness coming off your comment. I understand people are patriotic and love America, but it just feels weird/cringe when people say thank you for your service. I usually say thank the families who lost their soldier. Because they’re paying the ultimate sacrifice. Once again I understand why people say it.

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u/KarmaPharmacy Aug 03 '22

We both find it to be extremely cringe worthy for people who never stop talking about their service (or their husband’s). Those service member vanity plates. Going out to get all the free shit you can on Veterans Day. Telling people you’re a veteran every chance you get. And the nearly unlimited veteran scams.

And from what I understand, it’s always the guys who didn’t see any action who are the loudest ones about it.

Honestly, he’s my best friend and so if something annoys him, it annoys me, too. We bonded day one by me asking “is it awkward if I thank you for your service?” And now that’s my go-to. I find it breaks down the barriers of bullshit.

Anyway, is it awkward if I thank you for your service? Lmao

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u/Ghostly_Warpig Interested Aug 03 '22

I don’t do the free Veterans Day stuff…..my work though last year even being brand new gave me some steaks/chicken/pork chops and I’m not going to turn that down but I also didn’t ask for it lol. I was a 88m in Iraq 08-09. We were lucky to not have any issues on convoys, but some stuff stuck with me. I appreciate you making sure your vet is taken care of because that is rare. You also seem to understand some stuff too.

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u/pyromartian Aug 03 '22

Oh shit, my cousin was an 88m in Afghanistan 08! He also saw his fair share of shit too. I did remember that he told me once that an rpg struck his windshield. I forget exactly what he was driving, but he was on point in a big ass truck meant to clear the way and the windshield took it like a champ.

Unfortunately, he got hurt in another event that resulted in shrapnel, and damage to his spine. We don't know much about what happened exactly but he was treated well and he is able run and workout just as hard as when he was in service.

As gun-ho as he is, he did struggle a bit because of some of the stuff he's seen. But he is doing tons better and he has a daughter that he is more than willing to give a 110% to and a supportive wife to give him encouragement.

I just figured you might want to hear about how a brother is doing, and don't worry we are doing our best to support him I am due to call and check in on him though, he always likes talking with me...

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u/Ghostly_Warpig Interested Aug 03 '22

Most certainly I do. That would be some scary shit. It’s always good to check in on a fellow vet! That is different than thanking them if you understand that. You sound like a good friend too and vets do need to be checked on because it is to easy to check out.

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u/KarmaPharmacy Aug 03 '22 edited Aug 03 '22

Hey, you can’t turn down nice meat! That’s awesome.

I don’t mean to be down on veterans that enjoy some perks now and then, but it’s just the whole “look at me” behavior (every two seconds) that I find to be rather annoying — in any type of person, honestly. It’s like some of them are theatre kids but tough guy style.

I was really honored when he started to open up to me when we were first dating. He told me things about his service he’s never told anyone — and that was a great honor that he trusted me with something so raw and personal to him. I have had a pretty hard life, but thanks to a ton of therapy I’m doing a lot better. I was able to take that training and apply it to helping him. We try so hard to lift each other up 24/7. We were super lucky in the pandemic in that we felt like we could handle everything that was going on because it wasn’t, at all, the worst thing to happen to either of us. Stay home and eat snacks? Easy.

Are you doing ok? Those convoys were not cakewalks.

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u/AmazingSieve Aug 03 '22 edited Aug 03 '22

You might like San Diego. Obviously massive military town but there’s not that thank you for your service culture.

We’re incredibly respectful of service members, just we view serving as another job if that makes any sense.

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u/KarmaPharmacy Aug 03 '22

San Diego is beautiful and the people are wonderful! But after having lived all over the world, we both prefer living in the middle of nowhere in the Rockies. The quiet. The safety. The peace. The wildlife.

It’s wonderful. You should come visit!

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u/FlyingOmoplatta Aug 03 '22

Lived with a Combat Vet and we talked about this stuff all the time. All he had was a Purple Heart Vanity plate. Would tell me the people who boast the most about there veteran status with a buncha bumper stickers probably never saw combat.

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u/KarmaPharmacy Aug 03 '22

Purple Heart vanity plate is pretty cool. Can you get those customized like…

“ACHE4U”

Sorry, I’m the worst.

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u/lockerpunch Aug 03 '22 Helpful

I should know, but I don’t. What’s the PACT act?

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u/WlzeMan85 Aug 03 '22 Helpful

It gives veterans medicine care for diseases cot in duty like if a Vietnam veteran got sprayed in some chemical that caused them to have cancer 15 years later the don't have to pay out of pocket for treatment

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u/lockerpunch Aug 03 '22 Helpful

Thanks! So one of those things where it’s obvious they should have free coverage but they’re not because American healthcare.

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u/naked_logic Aug 03 '22

But they're not because *Republicans and their 'muh free market' bullshit

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u/dalmathus Aug 03 '22

Take your military labor to a different war with less chemicals. No one made you inhale on that battlefield!

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u/wewbull Aug 03 '22

I know you're being /s, but to really nail it home for people...

The US military brought the chemicals with them. They then ordered their soldiers to stand beside it whilst it burned.

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u/filterless Aug 03 '22

And that doesn’t even work for Vietnam Veterans since a lot of them were drafted. (Not blaming anyone who joined voluntarily, NO ONE really understands what they’re getting in to when they enlist.)

My Dad served in the Vietnam war in the Navy. He was on a mine sweeper. He told me once about when they were anchored just off the coast, Bombers flying back to a carrier from their mission would dump any agent orange they had left just as they got to the water. Fuel is precious and those planes are given just enough fuel to do their mission. If for some reason they couldn’t dump all their agent orange on their targets they’d dump it as they were headed back to lighten the load enough that they’d have enough fuel to get back.

He remembers standing on deck, watching the bombers fly by and being surrounded by clouds of agent orange that they’d dumped.

He also told me once how they had to change some of the asbestos insulation in the engine room, and they removed the old stuff by ripping it off the pipes by hand with no masks or ventilation.

He’s in his 70s now. Has had cancer, recovered, and is doing well surprisingly. A lot of the people he served with have died since then from illness.

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u/InTh3s3TryingTim3s Aug 03 '22

Mitt Romney still voted against giving healthcare. Most of these Republicans are just evil and want to hurt veterans. Mitt Romney also voted for Trump's agenda 99% of the time. Mitt Romney likely agrees with Trump that veterans are idiots, and that's why he's desperately trying to deny them healthcare. Republicans are fucking gross

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u/darthstupidious Aug 03 '22

Mitt Romney is the same cowardly chucklefuck that literally showed up to protest anti-Vietnam protestors while at Stanford, then used his daddy's influence to nab a couple of deferments and vacation in Europe while other boys and men died in a jungle thousands of miles away.

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u/MattressMaker Aug 03 '22

If you’d like to see Mitt’s effects in the markets, look up his affiliation with BCG, a “consultant group” that aims to ruin businesses by shorting them into oblivion to create cash. Fucking despicable.

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u/startrek_ensign Aug 03 '22 edited Aug 10 '22

Mitt Romney is a former CEO of Bain Capital. He's not simply "affiliated" with consulting companies. He was one of the most successful private equity leaders in the 1980s. His personal wealth from those days is one of the two reasons why he's still a relevant politician today (outside of being the most powerful Mormon in the federal government representing Utah).

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u/Prime157 Aug 03 '22

It's markets vs systems.

Republicans unanimously support markets - even when life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness are oppressed.

Life, you know... Like healthcare.

How can you have the right to life, but a random accident makes you a slave to debt?

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u/greentreesbreezy Aug 03 '22 edited Aug 03 '22

Because they believe random bad occurrences are your fault because you're lazy, and when good things happen to you, you took something from them. Likewise when good things happen to them it's because they "worked hard" and "earned it", while when bad things happen to them it's because something was taken from them.

You owe them so much you cannot ever repay them, but they don't owe you a fucking thing. They are entitled to every benefit of living in a society, but they feel outraged by the idea they owe anything to that society.

Their entire reality is based around ideas, beliefs, and concepts, not evidence, insight or self-reflection.

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u/465554544255434B52 Aug 03 '22

It passed? I thought the whole high five thing was after repubs sank it

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u/Bythmark Aug 03 '22

They held it up trying to make changes to it, basically trying to cut costs from either the bill or unrelated areas. Those changes failed, and the bill has passed anyway.

This article has the best explanation I could find: https://abc7chicago.com/pact-act-senate-toxic-burn-pits-2022/12094427/

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u/Weak_Ring6846 Aug 03 '22

They did sink it but started getting a ton of backlash. The bs Fox News was peddling didn’t seem to be sticking so they had to scramble to pass it.

Republicans have only agreed to pass this bill because they were forced to by the people. They don’t actually give two shits about the dying veterans.

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u/globglogabgalabyeast Aug 03 '22

Yup, republicans will always claim that they're the pro-veteran party, regardless of any actual legislation

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u/maryjannie Aug 03 '22

Literally shamed the gop to pass it.

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u/ohlaph Aug 03 '22

That's the way it should be. By the people, for the people.

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u/Weak_Ring6846 Aug 03 '22

Nah it should have been passed in the first place without republicans gambling with peoples’ lives.

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u/Interesting_Shirt438 Aug 03 '22

Agent orange which is so dangerous

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u/PureRandomness529 Aug 03 '22

Agent orange has also rendered all Vietnam Vet’s full VA coverage so this bill doesn’t cover that (because it was already there).

But wars thereafter.

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u/ZuluPapa Interested Aug 03 '22

The biggest part of this bill is for the current generation of veterans suffering from burn pit related ailments. Vietnam veterans got screwed and left out in the cold for years. Unfortunately, this bill is too little too late for many of them. It is, however, a huge benefit to veterans of the last 20+ years.

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u/PureRandomness529 Aug 03 '22

Agent Orange already qualified all Vietnam Vet’s full coverage from the VA.

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u/hurrymenot Aug 03 '22

It's fucking embarrassing that this had to be addressed at all.

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u/getshwiftyman Aug 03 '22

In addition to other things which have been stated, the PACT act makes it an easier process over all for veterans to prove "service related" ailments they sustained during their time enlisted. This act is going to pave the way for full care and assistance for disabled, wounded, or otherwise incapacitated veterans.

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u/eight_ender Aug 03 '22

Can’t emphasize how important this part is. My farther in law was an Airforce general and my mom had to fight for years to get them to acknowledge that his extremely rare form of ALS was probably caused by the shitload of chemicals he was exposed to in Desert Storm and Vietnam. Once we got through he got top tier care and my mom got support she desperately needed. Most veterans don’t have the resources we did.

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u/greenvillain Aug 03 '22

Healthcare for veterans exposed to burn pits

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u/ReallyFnCleverName Aug 03 '22

It's not just burn pits... that's the main people they discussed (as there's a lot of those people) but it makes it easier for ANY veterans exposed to toxic substances to now get relief from the VA.

Expands and extends eligibility for VA health care for Veterans with toxic exposures and Veterans of the Vietnam, Gulf War, and post-9/11 eras

This is pretty big as I will be refiling my VA disability claim being that I was on the USS Reagan when we went through the Nuclear plume from Fukushima. I worked on the flight deck, so along with the nuclear radiation exposure (whether they say it was safe or not) I was also exposed to years of jet fuel exhaust which I will be adding to my claim.

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u/hamma1776 Aug 03 '22

Been there, done that

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u/CookhouseOfCanada Aug 03 '22

Another fat W for the man himself Jon Stewart.

First he saved the first responders now he's saving the vets.

Gets into politics to save the everyday man then disappears in a cloud of smoke instead of reveling in praise.

A man people should aspire to be.

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u/39thUsernameAttempt Aug 03 '22

He could give any established politician a run for their money if he decided to run for office.

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u/MisterEmpty Aug 03 '22

Every time I hear about Jon Stewart I always go back and watch his video where he rips into congress about the issues with healthcare for the 9/11 first responders.

If you haven't seen the video I highly recommend watching it, such a well spoken individual and a powerful speech (that I came to learn was not written down either). The more I learn about Jon the more I'm convinced he's a great person. The bill ended up passing a month or so after this speech as well.

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u/IllSeaworthiness43 Aug 03 '22

These men and women responded in 5 seconds...they did their jobs. 18 years later now... Do yours!!!

I absolutely love that Jon called out Congress to be the pussies that they are. Thank you for the link

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u/Ethnafia_125 Aug 03 '22

I hadn't seen this before. Thank you for sharing it.

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u/Barbosse007 Aug 03 '22

The photo with Mitch McConnel afterward was priceless as well

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u/familydogsandwine Aug 03 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

He is so right. It is absolutely disgraceful they way we treat our veterans. They are denied benefits on the pretext of "pre-existing mental disorders" which is beyond wrong. They are forced to "prove" they are entitled to medical care or mental health care. So many are homeless and self-medicating with drugs and there is so little help from the country they served. So many struggle and suffer it is a national disgrace.

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '22

The GI bill wouldn’t pass today. That’s how far we’ve fallen in helping our veterans

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u/Rowbot_Girlyman Aug 03 '22 edited Aug 03 '22

We should just nationalize medical care and be done with it honestly.

EDIT:I meant medical insurance should be nationalized and made single payer not the hospitals themselves.

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u/DrunksInSpace Aug 03 '22

Let’s nationalize paying for it first. Nationalized direct health services is a dangerous route with the GOP in control every few years.

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u/Rowbot_Girlyman Aug 03 '22

Sorry *let's just have single payer so everyone who needs medicine can get it.

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u/scorpiogre Aug 03 '22

How does single payer work exactly? I hear it thrown around a lot, just very heavy reads when trying to research.

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u/AtenderhistoryinrusT Aug 03 '22 edited Aug 03 '22

Single payer means one person pays. Right now lots of people pay, sometimes its an actual individel person sometimes its the teacher union sometimes its antham blue cross bule shield or its cigna or aetna. This means lots of groups paying which means lots of different rates being negotiated. If you represent 100,000 possible patients you get a better deal then if you represent 10. The people who represent 10…or 1, end up paying extra to make up for the deal they made for the 100,000. Single payer means the US gov represents everyone equally and so they have the strongest negotiating position. You wanna charge $700 for a shot of insulin, you don’t get to play ball cuz all these patients are going to the hospital 10 miles away that charge $70. If there is not a hospital down the road the gov can build and run one and say yep we are selling insulin for $50 bucks…oops you fucked up. Im dumb but here is the smart version https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CeDOQpfaUc8

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u/scorpiogre Aug 03 '22

Ok, that's what I'd kinda assumed, but then I figured I might be wrong. You're awesome, thanks for in depth yet clear answer.

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u/usrevenge Aug 03 '22

Imagine. I'd all 330million Americans had the same insurance company

This insurance company could not make 1 penny in profit

Imagine if it was illegal to deny coverage because of any non medical reason.

Imagine if a company who refused to sell it's medicine or procedure just lost their patent in the us and other companies could then copy it.

Imagine if, with the bargaining power of the 330million American health insurance network prices were dictated based on this population.

And finally. To pay for this. Instead of paying out of pocket instead of your employer paying hundreds per month.

Everyone simply pays a small portion of their income. We already do this btw. Americans pay about as much per person as any other country in terms of healthcare taxes. Where we get fucked is we also pay our of pocket.

The cherry on top is no red tape, no fear of medical bankruptcy. No fear of an out of network surgeon costing 100x as much as in network. Every doctor would have to accept this insurance. Every hospital would have to accept this insurance.

That's kinda how it works. Instead of a bunch of smaller companies that make profit you have 1 massive company that makes 0 profit and dictates the terms to the industry.

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u/scorpiogre Aug 03 '22

Which is why it's blocked at every turn. Because money talks and bullshit walks. Thank you for taking time to answer.

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u/punchgroin Aug 03 '22

Easy, just use the money we already give to hmos to subsidize the cost of insurance. We spend more subsidizing insurance than we would by just having health care.

The us taxpayer already spends more on health care than any nation on earth.

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u/KlingonSpy Aug 03 '22 Bravo!

Which is total bullshit because we have to prove that we are mentally fit to serve before we join

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u/familydogsandwine Aug 03 '22

Exactly. You also have to prove you are physically fit. So there is absolutely no way a service member has a pre-existing mental disorder or health problem before they entire the service. None and the fact this is the excuse used to deny medical and mental care is a transparent attempt to keep VA costs down at the expense of the men and women who keep us safe.

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u/LambeauLeapt Aug 03 '22

Jon Stewart is a national fucking treasure.

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u/Atxflyguy83 Aug 03 '22

He's going to steal the Declaration of Independence.

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u/Dull_Bumblebee_9778 Aug 03 '22

Now for him to get back to ripping apart the SEC/DTCC

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u/Runaround46 Aug 03 '22

DTCC already ripping themselves apart.

Oh yeah look up the DTC , these fuckers made another company so they can hide more shit.

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u/AvoidMySnipes Aug 03 '22

The DTCC owns the DTC

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u/The_Bearded_Jedi Aug 03 '22

I don't know what either of these groups are. But I can't help but imagine them thinking "if we add another C to the name they won't know who we are." The real Clark Kent wearing glasses to hide his identity

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u/AdminsWork4Putin Aug 03 '22

*checks for GameStop sub posts.*

Yup.

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u/Colekillian Aug 03 '22

There are few people I respect more than Jon Stewart. Class act the whole way. Yes, even his yelling and swearing because it’s for the right fucking reason and against so much corruption.

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u/SweatyFLMan1130 Aug 03 '22

My aunt is one of those who lost her husband and met with Jon and several others on the hill making this happen. She was visiting my family today and we all watched as her and her twin (my mother) cried holding one another seeing the bill pass. I may be a filthy leftist and my late uncle may have disliked me for that, but I'm so glad to see this shit finally go through.

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u/Party-Roof-1237 Aug 03 '22

This gentleman is pure to the core.

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u/WarOnIce Aug 03 '22

I’m a vet with migraines almost every day, but not from burn pits. I can’t imagine seeing this turned down the other day and not being furious. I’m sorry you had to go through this political drama. We all deserve better, especially when it’s damage they caused us.

Damage we have to be reminded of all the time.

And they wonder why enlistment numbers are down so much.

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u/_Profitable_Prophet_ Aug 03 '22

Thank you and i am sorry for your pain and your sisters and brothers in the service hurting.

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u/jeff_huit Aug 03 '22

regardless of red or blue, that's a motherfuckr you can trust.

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u/Professional_Bundler Aug 03 '22

I can see that slogan on a political yard sign.

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u/Sea_Perspective6891 Aug 03 '22

Yeah. Shame he won't run for president.

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u/jazztronik Aug 03 '22

He's too smart to run for that shit

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u/Highside1269 Aug 03 '22 edited Aug 03 '22

The mensch of mensches right there. Really miss JS on the Daily Show.

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u/RedArmyHammer Aug 03 '22

He's earned the title of honorary übermensche

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u/Mariospario Aug 03 '22

More importantly, bestest mensch.

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u/Highside1269 Aug 03 '22

Is the text book example.

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u/MattyBeatz Aug 03 '22

If my math is correct, he’s now 2 for 2 in the super vocal and public shamings of Congress in order to get a bill passed.

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u/Economy_Tune4307 Aug 03 '22

Is he holding a CVS receipt

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u/Impossible_Cold558 Aug 03 '22

It's 2023, there's more money in this country than we could reasonably spend if we used it correctly, every person on the continent has the culmination of human knowledge in their pocket, we can communicate near instantaneously with basically every other human on earth, we cure diseases and change the course of rivers.

Nothing, and I mean nothing, that we do should be all that difficult. None of it should near as difficult as it currently is.

People are fucking crazy for being willing to put up with all this shit as if there's some payoff for dealing with all these wealthy assholes in a polite way.

We get what, maybe 70 years each, a lifetime for each of us.

And we're being forced to spend it fighting and clawing for basic necessities, rights, and respect by people who literally have zero want 100 times over and are attacking us and putting us at odds over the power to keep doing it.

I wasted 20 years of my life serving the country and supposedly it's people. 20 years I fucking toiled away dreaming of my chance to relax. And now here I am, watching the same people who've had a pretty entitled and easy life, purposely fucking things up over people who don't give a fuck about them outside their ability to vote.

It's hard because people are making it hard for everyone else. At some point we're going to have to physically make them stop doing that.

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u/Charyou-Tree Aug 03 '22

How do I form a political party that stands for forcing Jon Stewart to be president against his will?

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u/andythefifth Aug 03 '22

Call it the “I Fucking Care” party.

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u/BeenOnHereTooLong Aug 03 '22

Just start getting signatures and force him to run as an independent

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u/hot-whisky Aug 03 '22

Hold on, isn’t that literally the plot of “servant of the people?”

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u/BeenOnHereTooLong Aug 03 '22

I've never seen it

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u/reddituseroutside Aug 03 '22

Now do citizens united

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u/Dddddddfried Aug 03 '22

That’s a much, much bigger fight. A lot of power at stake

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u/FictionVent Aug 03 '22

I’m pretty sure Citizens United was a one way street. One you allow unlimited corporate money into politics how can private citizens ever afford to fight against it? It’s gonna take guillotines to get that one overturned.

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u/SqBlkRndHole Aug 03 '22

It's sad that we now have a military that would reward you with lifetime retirement benefits after 20 years of service, regardless of retirement age, to making vets fight for deserved medical care.

The only incentive, beyond the GI Bill, to join the military, is to get out of poverty. Hmm.

Fun fact, many soldiers qualify for food stamps.

But hey, now they can teach in Florida public schools, with a GED and 4 years of active service.

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u/FireyToots Aug 03 '22

I know u/JonStewart isn’t going to see this, but I’m a 90% disabled veteran and that hasn’t even begun to tough the respiratory stuff from the war. Thank you, dude. You didn’t have to be a hero, but you are.

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u/notfrankc Aug 03 '22

I want Jon Stewart calling senators “fucking cowards” on camera right after every bullshit vote for the foreseeable future.

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u/IDeferToYourWisdom Aug 03 '22

I don't see why Democrats aren't doing that regularly. Can someone please explain to me what historical event explains how Democrats are so poor at messenging? How did they get like that?

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u/ParkingAdditional813 Aug 03 '22

This is what a real patriot looks like you seditious flag humping fake fucks.

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u/NorCalAthlete Aug 03 '22

Wait, it passed now?! Awesome!

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u/dandantheshippingman Aug 03 '22

Jon Stewart is awesome.

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u/Teelo888 Aug 03 '22

Stewart 2024 please

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u/BudgetRocknRoll Aug 03 '22

And 11 scumbag Republicans voted against it.

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u/blklab16 Aug 03 '22

NGL the fact that there’s a republican named Crapo makes me LOL every time

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u/Hairsandshoes Aug 03 '22

I'm sorry hold the fuck on.

There's a person from Idaho with the name CRAPO? LOL.

For sure a lifetime of bullying a mocking drove that incel to the Republican party.

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u/Styvan01 Aug 03 '22

Lemme guess the fist bumpers were part of the 11?

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u/InTh3s3TryingTim3s Aug 03 '22

Ted Cruz has no spine and voted for it. Every single amendment failed and only one sentence was changed and it had nothing to do with the way the money was spent. They voted on the same bill they fist bumped for killing, and changed their minds exclusively because of public pressure. Paper tigers.

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u/christmastree18 Aug 03 '22

He is a true American!

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u/Sitcom_kid Aug 03 '22

Jon Stewart is the most effective part of Congress and he's not even a member.

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u/stlredbird Aug 03 '22

Who voted “no”?

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u/Murderyoga Aug 03 '22

Mitt Romney of Utah

Rand Paul of Kentucky

Mike Crapo of Idaho

James Lankford of Oklahoma

Mike Lee of Utah

Cynthia Lummis of Wyoming

James Risch of Idaho

Richard Shelby of Alabama

Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania

Mike Tuberville of Alabama

Thom Tillis of North Carolina

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u/RealLordFluffyButt Aug 03 '22

Dickhead Cruz votes Yes? What a fucking coward. Take note, I will always call him a coward no matter the reason.

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u/somedude456 Interested Aug 03 '22

Question: On the Motion (Motion to Concur in the House Amendment to S.3373 )

Vote Date: August 2, 2022, 06:56 PM

Measure Title: A bill to improve the Iraq and Afghanistan Service Grant and the Children of Fallen Heroes Grant.

Vote Counts: YEAs: 86 NAYs: 11 Not Voting: 3

Crapo (R-ID), Nay

Lankford (R-OK), Nay

Lee (R-UT), Nay

Lummis (R-WY), Nay

Paul (R-KY), Nay

Risch (R-ID), Nay

Romney (R-UT), Nay

Shelby (R-AL), Nay

Tillis (R-NC), Nay

Toomey (R-PA), Nay

Tuberville (R-AL), Nay

Cornyn (R-TX), Not Voting

Leahy (D-VT), Not Voting

Merkley (D-OR), Not Voting

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u/Alauren2 Aug 03 '22

I wish I could hug him.

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u/KarmaticIrony Aug 03 '22 edited Aug 03 '22

Jon Stewart has always had my respect as a commentator and entertainer but his public service in recent years has cemented his legacy as a genuine American hero.

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u/Nate16 Aug 03 '22

Why can't we elect THIS kind of celebrity?

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u/Hrmpfreally Aug 03 '22

I hope Jon understands how much he means to those of us exposed to this shit by our government.

Thank you, Jon.

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u/maryjannie Aug 03 '22

It's really sad Veterans had to shame the gop to do the right thing.

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u/captain554 Aug 03 '22

He's an example of what we should have as our politicians. Not whatever the fuck we currently have.

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u/10354141 Aug 03 '22

It was the Republicans who blocked it, and 11 GOP scumbags voted against the latest bill. Not saying Democrats are amazing, but they weren't the scumbags who voted against healthcare for veterans. That was the good old patriotic, Christian values party

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u/ojioni Aug 03 '22

He seriously shamed the GOP with his epic rant. I honestly did not think it was possible to shame them given how bereft they are of basic human compassion.

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u/Psychological_Wafer9 Aug 03 '22

I ranted about this for a while earlier this week and my mom chimed in. Saying that people were voting against it because "it gives the government free reign on spending money where it shouldn't go" the fact that people are trying to justify blocking something important is fucking insane given that its coming from actual fake news. Especially for something so stupid and fact checkable (I read the whole bill after she said that. Pretty textbook bill and how I would've written it if I were in government)

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u/Vivalyrian Aug 03 '22

Now imagine if Jon ran as President.

Fights for the common man, even when he's rich and famous and could just sit back and enjoy life.

That boy was raised right.

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u/Ok-Engine8044 Aug 03 '22

We don't deserve Jon Stewart. He's a real American hero and I would vote for him as president if he ever ran.

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u/cobeast Aug 03 '22

I love the way Jon chooses to be. I wish he had stayed on at the Daily Show for Trump's term. He had an important voice and just relinquished it. I get it though. It must have been exhausting and a heavy emotional weight.

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u/PhillyCider Aug 03 '22

Who would vote for Stewart if he ran for President?

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u/Jaschndlr Aug 03 '22

I'd be both really happy to vote for him and really sad to do that to him

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u/Accomplished-Tip2972 Aug 03 '22

God bless you Jon! As a veteran I would support,campaign and respect you as the president of the United States of America 🇺🇸

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u/cryptolipto Aug 03 '22

He should run for office. He’s already pretty damn involved in politics

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