r/Damnthatsinteresting 1d ago Silver 1 Helpful 4 Wholesome 3 Pot o' Coins 1 Sidevote 1

when they don't allow rainbow armbands at the World Cup Image

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u/BeatLaboratory 1d ago Silver Starry

This is photoshopped fwiw

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u/GuujiGang 1d ago

jfc i thought i was going crazy because nobody in this thread mentioned it. it's literally some random 'what if' mockup that doesn't even look real

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u/bonequestions 1d ago

Yeah, clever idea, but doesn't seem to belong here

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u/VirtualEconomy 1d ago

Is it clever? This is still bending over backwards for bigotry. "haha in tiny text we're actually opposing your rules" That's not a win.

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u/bonequestions 1d ago

I just meant it's sort of a cute idea by the designer. I'm not saying yay bigotry has been solved, especially when it's not even real.

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u/itsmywife 1d ago

look through the dudes comment history, its all negative posts lmao

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u/WillDeletOneDay 1d ago

This is "Bending over backwards for bigotry" in the same sense that Russian protestors holding up blank signs and silently circling public squares is bending over backwards.

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u/RhetoricalOrator 1d ago

But I thought technically correct was the best kind of correct?

I'd call it a win IF the color police saw this and then tried to do something about it. Might as well know and expose just how deep the well of bigotry goes.

Otherwise, it's like flipping somebody off while their back is turned but your friends are still watching. It's just trying to look cool while being an absolute wuss.

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u/Matt_NZ 1d ago

But, did they pay for the new Pantone library subscriptions?

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u/Incromulent 1d ago

Yeah, they should have used #9400D3 #4B0082 #0000FF #00FF00 #FFFF00 #FF7F00 #FF0000

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u/knullsmurfen 1d ago

Your ancient spells shall not put a hex on us, warlock!

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u/zoli9602 1d ago

Exactly... why not use RGB or HEX codes? Hell, even CMYK is more commonly known than this pantone thing that I had to google...

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u/Pratkungen 1d ago

RGB and HEX aren't properly standardised for real colors. They say that there are 256 shades of RGB in the RGB standard but the exact shades vary. Pantone is standardised and used in proper product production. Basically I design something, send it to be made and tell them it should be a specific pantone shade and they use their pantone chip to make sure that it is. When I receive it I can use mine to make sure that they did it right. Makes the process of getting the right color on something quicker. Especially considering that every display is slightly diffferent so just going off the monitors isn't going to work.

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u/Superb_Firefighter20 1d ago

Pantone even has a swatch book for fabric.

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u/ac3boy 1d ago

Thank you. Only had to scroll down a little. Pantone Police gonna dissappear them.

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u/FuckingRantMonday 1d ago

Can't believe how far down I had to scroll for this...

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u/Deepspacecow12 1d ago

Its an awful photoshop too.

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u/Romeo3t 1d ago

I was 100% fooled if it truly is. The highlights on the black ink as it curved toward the light(and to that point towards the shadow of his arm) sells it for me.

I wouldn't call it awful at all. I guess the lines don't bend realistically? I dunno I'm guessing here because I really can't tell.

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u/orbdragon 1d ago

The knit of the fabric curves but the marked lines are perfectly straight, and you can easily see where the lines cut right over the fabric stitching without any regard for the texture and ripples of it

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u/SulkyVirus 1d ago

Didn't even try to match the font curve to the curve of the armband and stitching.

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u/knullsmurfen 1d ago

These kids today. They can't even tell by the pixels it ain't so!

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u/glgbnaf 1d ago All-Seeing Upvote

Did they purchase a separate license to use those Pantone color names and numbers😏😒

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u/JBarker727 1d ago

Here comes a cease and desist lol

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u/lazarus22 1d ago edited 1d ago Helpful Eureka!

For those outside of the graphics designer loop, the Pantone® colors are now a seperate subscription service inside of Photoshop. You heard that right, we're subscribing to colors now. Only $15 per month.

https://www.theverge.com/2022/11/1/23434305/adobe-pantone-subscription-announcement-photoshop-illustrator

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u/DavidGamingHDR Interested 1d ago

This is getting ridiculous, especially with how expensive photoshop is already.

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u/lazarus22 1d ago edited 1d ago

I'm excited to see the Last of Us on HBO, but you know what's even more exciting, turquoise.

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u/MrSomnix 1d ago

15-5217 TCX

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u/CosmicCreeperz 1d ago Silver

Don’t taunt those Pantone goons, they will beat you 19-0303 TCX and 19-4052 TCX.

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u/FittyNOut 1d ago

And more expensive.

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u/Absolute_Peril 1d ago

Supposedly this is because adobe was fucking around and didn't update the licensing or something.

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u/jason2306 1d ago All-Seeing Upvote

More likely pantone wanted sweet subscription money adobe was making. Don't get me wrong adobe sucks and they're both in the wrong but just wanted to say pantone sure as hell isn't the good guy.

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u/Absolute_Peril 1d ago

My money is on they are all assholes

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u/nmitch3ll 1d ago

The whole thing is pretty absurd to me considering the cost of PMS swatch books, and that you're supposed to replace them every 12-18 months; that in itself is a pretty good subscription model

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u/J03-K1NG Expert 1d ago

The licensing… for colors?

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u/thorbackthide 1d ago

Licensing to ensure that the designer, advertisers, and a worldwide network of printers and manufacturers are all using THE SAME colors.

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u/ReclusiveBeans 1d ago

for a catalog of very specifically indexed and repeatable colors, yes. It's more complex than just a list of colors.

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u/dllemmr2 1d ago

So red, green AND blue?

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u/ReclusiveBeans 1d ago

When you think of pantone, think print media. The repeatability of the colors in print media are very important and using the pantone color system ensures you get that repeatability when sending to printing. It's more exact and reproducible than RGB or the CMYK your home printer uses.

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u/dllemmr2 1d ago

I used to work at a place that printed large format billboards on printing presses, where movie studios would sent out proofers that would tell us that our perfect orange was too red. After that I realized it’s mostly just smoke and mirrors.

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u/tebee 1d ago

No, more like ordering T-Shirts, marketing leaflets and ballpoint pens in the exact shade of pink that your company uses for its logo. And despite the factories being in China and using entirely different color processes you get exactly the right colors every time, because you used Pantone.

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u/ApatheticAbsurdist 1d ago

No. Pantone covers spot colors that can be out of gammut or even have properties that cannot be defined by red green and blue primaries, including mattes, glosses, metallics, and neon/fluorescent pigments.

RGB is limited and multiple different combinations of pigments can achieve the same RGB value under one light but under a different illumination source (different mix of wavelengths) the two printed colors that matched under one light look different under the second. This effect is called metamerism and one of many challenges in the print industry.

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u/lookiamapollo 1d ago

I was a color matcher when I was a chemist in the coatings industry.

Bringing back nightmares of metamorism

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u/TeamAquaAdminMatt 1d ago

Here's an interesting video that explains a bit about pantone colors https://youtu.be/JF8UziDHqZo

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u/_lippykid 1d ago

Cyan, magenta, yellow and black (key), would be a better (sarcastic) selection since red, green and blue creates color with light, like screens. Whereas Pantone creates standardized colors for real world stuff. Although Pantone is spot pigment so usually custom formulated

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u/Absolute_Peril 1d ago

It about making sure blue 7 or whatever looks like blue seven when it's on paper or cloth or whatever media you are using.

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u/acog 1d ago

People replying didn’t read the article. Adobe is not doing this, Pantone is.

Adobe had a deal with Pantone that they could distribute the Pantone library for no additional charge, but that agreement ended.

Adobe can’t give out Pantone colors for free, they don’t own them.

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u/0o_Lillith_o0 1d ago

I welcome thee to the seas brother 🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️

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u/Aconite_72 1d ago

Yo I’m a pirate but I never thought I’d have to pirate colours one day

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u/400F 1d ago

I’m pretty much just waiting for the possibility to download a car, one that doesn’t require a subscription for faster acceleration or seat warmers.

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u/butterknifebr 1d ago

I can imagine myself angling for a better job so I can afford the seatbelt level of subscription.

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u/wigg1es 1d ago

Adobe makes bank on their corporate licenses. Pirate that shit.

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u/No_Vec_ 1d ago

Costs $0

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u/superfly-whostarlock 1d ago edited 1d ago

Fortunately Stuart Semple has saved us yet again with FreeTone - a liberated Pantone color palette free to use for anyone* Swatches include TIFF blue, Easy Klein, Pinkest Pink, and Black 3.0 * *except Adobe or Pantone employees

https://www.culturehustleusa.com/products/freetone

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u/youre_being_creepy 1d ago

Lol @ tiff blue and easy Klein blue

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u/keller104 1d ago

First acceleration and now colors? When will it end?!?

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u/BKacy 1d ago

F them. That’s nothing but screen representation. Every time Adobe gets a lock on something, they set about screwing everybody they can.

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u/AxelMaumary 1d ago edited 1d ago All-Seeing Upvote

The Pantone subscription is Pantone’s idea, they are the ones that wanted to charge for it.

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u/BKacy 1d ago

…and got Adobe to change it’s software for their benefit. Call me a conspiracy nut—but Adobe’s colorful fingerprints are likely all over that.

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u/AxelMaumary 1d ago

Eh, they probably threatened to pull whatever license Adobe has unless they did that.

To be clear, I’m not defending adobe. I think they have pretty much Monopoly on digital design tools and I’m tired of them screwing over designers with Creative Cloud.

But I think this is on Pantone’s

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u/Ketima 1d ago

Can't blame Adobe for pulling Pantone out as Pantone wanted a piece of every CC subscription regardless whether the user used Pantone or not.

The whole Pantone-to-black shenanigan is purely Adobe being petty about it though.

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u/gosuprobe 1d ago

adobe sucks to be sure, but this one is on pantone

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u/alligatorocelot 1d ago

What stopping someone from just using the color picker?

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u/jumpjanglegym 1d ago

Nothing if its digital. Its when you go to print where you run into trouble.

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u/timeandmemory 1d ago

Wait for real? So if I happen to use the same RBG value as a panatone color suddenly I'm on the hook to pay licensing? What if I alter the RBG value by like 2 in one direction or the other? Does that extend to physical forms too, like mixing colors on a palette?

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u/mrbadface 1d ago

Not quite, in PS pantones are built-in swatches that you can select from instead of entering various values or picking from the colour palette.

Designers have piles of printed pantone swatches so they know what the colour will look like IRL. Since it would be very inconvenient to reproduce these as custom swatches now that they're locked, people and agencies will be forced to pay it

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u/CatAstrophy11 1d ago

That inconvenience is worth something so they'll do it so people aren't forced to pay. If you think no one will, you're wrong. The first to do it will get all the print customers flocking to them and the others will be forced to comply leaving Pantone alone and in the cold.

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u/triplenova10 1d ago

As far as I understand it, it isn't really a problem with using the color, it's that with panatone colors you can be sure that when you go to print it it will be exactly the same every time. So if you just pull a picture of the McDonald's logo off of the internet and print it normally then the McDonald's yellow color will be slightly different on different printers, but if you have the panatone color for the yellow then it will print exactly that yellow ever time so long as the printer is calibrated to the panatone colors. So there's no issue with using the color by just picking the rgb values or something.

I'm definitely no expert on this and I just got that from a couple articles and videos but that's the gist of it. Someone a bit higher up in this thread linked a Linus tech tips YouTube video that explains it really well.

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u/ashlynbiscuits 1d ago

No, Pantone is a specific reproducible color system. If you use pantone you can get books, and plastics, catalogs etc of their colors, and pantone c1543 (made up) in the book will be the same as every catalog, plastic, etc. You go to print that specific color and it will always come out that exact color. Mug, plastic, print, ceramic, whatever it is, if you specify that color, it will always be reproduced accurately. Pantone doesn't sell colors, they sell color accuracy and reproducability from monitor, to manufacturer. I might have a few minor details wrong here but the idea stands. Linus does a good video on it.

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u/RaygunCowboy007 1d ago

Believe it or not, straight to jail

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u/jacobward7 1d ago

No, 90% of print is in CMYK, not pantones (spot colours).

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u/jumpjanglegym 1d ago

You wouldn't use RGB (red, green, blue) values for print, but CMYK (cyan, magenta, yellow, black). I'm no legal expert, but when you try to print something in color you need to use physical material and the process can be trademarked? Again, I don't know the legality.

Anyway, since RGB/digital is made of light so there isn't anything physical, so to speak. If you want to print said image, you have to convert to CMYK and use physical material. White, for example, is titanium oxide and probably some other compounds. Blue is pythalominecough and red is probably made of fire or something. Yellow from bananas, I don't know.

Anyway, I think Pantone comes in somewhere during that color conversion and mixing process.

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u/energy_engineer 1d ago

So if I happen to use the same RBG value as a panatone color suddenly I'm on the hook to pay licensing

My understanding is no. It's a problem if you use the pantone color name.

Using RGB values is a problem because what you see and what is printed may not meet your expectations. It's possible to reconcile these issues but it's work and time - specifying pantone colors simplifies this work (a lot).

What's unfortunate is that the competition is small and pantone has become the defacto tool for harmonizing color.

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u/gk4rdos 1d ago

Iirc pantone colors are more than just rgb values. Something about being reference colors to make sure things look the same regardless of what material they're printed on. I don't work in the print industry though so someone who does could explain the difference better

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u/AxelMaumary 1d ago

Pantone is mostly used because colours look different on different materials, so assume you want to print a certain colour on fabric. It’s easier for the designer and the manufacturer to use Pantone rather than messing with the picker/HEX until they get something that looks close enough to what the designer had in mind.

Even if the designer gave them the HEX value, the colour might look different when the fabric is dyed.

Sometimes it won’t be noticeable, sometimes you’ll think they used an entire different shade than the one you wanted.

Using pantone, you know the colour will look the same as it looks on your PC.

As far as I know, if you use the picker and pick a colour that is the exact same as a Pantone one you shouldn’t run into any kind of issues unless, as the guy above said, you wanted to print it. Of course nothing’s stopping you from printing it, but as I said it won’t look the same.

You’ll have to pay to use the Pantone tab.

Sorry for the long reply

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u/The_Cutest_Kittykat 1d ago

No, it's more like a convenience thing. Pantone is a recipe that produces exactly the same colour no matter who uses it.

Think of it like McDonald's needing sesame buns when they expand into a new location. They can hand the Pantone recipe to the local Baker who will be able to produce the exact bun without trial and error.

There is nothing stopping you from creating the recipe from scratch and not pay a fee but sometimes the convenience of having the exact recipe is worth something to someone.

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u/BarkattheFullMoon 1d ago

You can use a Pantone color number if you have it. You would not be using an RGB value. That is the difference between paying for the Pantone subscription. Your colors are listed differently. Pantone can more simply be thought of as a specific brand of premixed paint. Maybe you don't see those colors on any other brands even though they have an extensive listing. If you are trying to establish a brand or consistency across different products/locations, you would want to use Pantone. Since you can purchase a license to use Pantone on Photoshop, no one would know if you had a license or not. There would be no problem using a Pantone color. It may even be suggested. However, there are Pantone colors that CANNOT be used. These are specific colors that have been trademarked and claimed by other, large brands who have not just used the color but removed it from the public sphere. When you see a trademarked logo, that can often include the color used in the logo.

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u/markfineart 1d ago

My 2011 Mac desktop is on life support because I have software loaded on it that isn’t for sale any longer. Subscriptions would cost me several hundred Canadian dollars a year.

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u/RizzMustbolt 1d ago

And if you're thinking that you'll just use the color picker and skip the swatches... They're blacked out that way too.

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u/TMOJBAR 1d ago

Sorry how does that work, can't you just put in the color codes for those colors, how do they have drm for colors

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u/themonovingian 1d ago

I'm seriously surprised there isn't a DMCA takedown of this image by Pantone.

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u/TheArtOfEyewink 1d ago

Fuck that. This will probably be a fashion thing.

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u/Rowvan 1d ago

Its outrageously good unintentional marketing

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u/Gullible_Databa 1d ago

That is a very good point. And we are talking about a legend of the game

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u/the_joy_of_VI 1d ago

Not really, the pantone stuff is just photoshopped on there

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u/-_1_2_3_- 1d ago

Why not just use the hex values

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u/jay_jay203 1d ago

its probably because the designers for kit like this use pantone as default.

its a company that coordinates colors between what is designed and what is manufactured so what you order is what you get rather than having different results depending on the colour setting of a monitor and the mixes of dyes, paints etc.

the only reason i know is because LTT recently did a video that included an explanation

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u/-_1_2_3_- 1d ago

Thanks for the answer, TIL, and that’s pretty useful.

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u/Angelwings19 1d ago

because hex values don't result in the same colour when you're producing physical products

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u/Pomnom 1d ago

Does it matter? You're still printing it on a white band anyway.

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u/Angelwings19 1d ago

yes, the material can greatly affect how the colours are reproduced

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u/onometre 1d ago

I think you misunderstand. you're still printing a code for a color, not the color itself. so anyone looking at it is going to look up the colors...on a computer

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u/mrvile 1d ago

But it’s just supposed to be rainbow colors… I think an approximation is good enough, no?

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u/rudyjewliani 1d ago

Nobody's producing the physical product in this scenario though. There's nothing to color match.

People will see the hex, look it up on a computer and go "oh, that's red, and that's orange" and no physical item would ever be produced.

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u/Angelwings19 1d ago

That's not relevant - the armband was made by designers that are already working in Pantone shades.

The idea is that they've replaced the chosen colours with text identifying the colour - to use hex values they would have to go out of their way to pick a hex colour that would be less accurate than the Pantone shades they're already using.

Not to mention the Pantone shades are likely easier for most people to look up.

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u/skratudojey 1d ago

All screens are different so its harder to coordinate with multiple people what a color should look like in a physical product, i.e water bottle, screwdriver, etc

Thats where pantone comes in. They have standardized physical products in the form of plastic color chips, paper ones, etc. This way you can tell a manufacturer half way across the world "I want the lid to have this pantone color" and you should get it in that exact color, without having to go back and forth with shipping until you get your desired color.

For the armband specifically idk why they use pantone, maybe because its more subtle/harder to catch? If they wanted it to be really clear they shouldve had "red orange yellow..." on each slot.

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u/joeljaeggli 1d ago

Loads as black in creative suite

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u/helmepll 1d ago

I’m colorblind so l prefer the codes over actual color anyways!

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u/TimeTravelingChris 1d ago Wholesome

How is that any better?

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u/flamefreak01 1d ago

I dont understand the downvotes you're right lol. Either he sees a gray scale rainbow in the picture or grey scale swatches when he looks them up. Probably because he didn't use the /s and seemed serious.

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u/RandomStallings 1d ago

gray scale

You might look into what colors are thought to look like with the different types of colorblindness. I don't think any of them come close to grey scale. The most common gives you a world of mostly blues and yellows, IIRC.

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u/NegaJared 1d ago

no kidding

why not repeat the color in various languages across each stripe

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u/Masculinum 1d ago

Should just use RAL like real (gay) men

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u/StayFocused720 1d ago

the colors are too expensive

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u/jumpy_genesis87 1d ago

I see, his a man of culture !

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u/tipsystatistic 1d ago

Hex values FTW

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u/It_Might_Be_True 1d ago

Fuck Pantone!

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u/ReportoDownvoto 1d ago

I ctrl+f'd this. Absolutely fuck PMS, they can suck a dick.

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u/Elevenst 1d ago Wholesome

You know how Ticketmaster is ripping everyone off? Think if we bought all the tickets at full price, but then at every concert secretly wear t-shirts that say "Ticketmaster sucks" so we can really stick it to the man. That will show them, right?

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u/DemanoRock 1d ago

That is how most of these protests go. Hong Kong in 2014, Occupy Wall Street and and all this shit.

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u/dependswho 1d ago

Apparently change only happens when people build coalitions across a variety of interest groups. Protest is a piece of it but it’s not the way change happens

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u/Victernus 1d ago

Or if a whole lot of people violently die. Historically that's worked pretty well.

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u/nvdnqvi 1d ago

yep, just like Fred Hampton’s Rainbow Coalition which ceased to exist after he was assassinated by the FBI

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u/Eskimoobob 1d ago

Explain how occupy wall St benefited the NYSE or the nasdaq in any way.

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u/0oodruidoo0 1d ago

That appears to be a player.

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u/account_for_norm 1d ago

Every protest / movement should have end goal. Not just provoking and causing ruckus. It can spread some awareness, but its not that effective.

e.g. MLKs covil rights movement.

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u/PreoccupiedNotHiding 1d ago

Can we get the shirts from the Ticketmaster site, for only 49.99?

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u/PacoTaco321 Interested 1d ago

And it's written in braille.

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u/CldWtrDiver100 1d ago

They should wear green screen armbands so we can add the rainbow

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u/apoIIo_exe 1d ago

i can see this going very bad

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u/Balkan-War-brrrr 1d ago

Insert swastika armband

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u/Racing21187 1d ago

You do know what colour grass is right?

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u/Illustrious_Salad_87 1d ago Silver

How about they quit bowing down to Qatar and actually do something. If they won't allow players to support a cause by wearing a piece of fabric then they should withdraw and go home.

They all talk the talk but it's not profitable for them so won't do it

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u/Usual-Librarian-3439 1d ago edited 1d ago

Vox has a great video on the bribery and corruption in FIFA. Basically, the more money you spend directly for the world cup and the more money you use to buy out the voters, the more likely it is to have the world cup hosted in your country. Qatar spent around 2 billion USD on infrastructure just for the World Cup. Same thing for Russia too and both nations disregard international law and human rights. Thousands of migrant workers died while building everything up in Qatar. Fucking. Bastards.

EDIT: Qatar Spent ~$300 billion dollars, was thinking of a different country but either way that is still a ton of money

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u/Jaded_Prompt_15 1d ago

Also, I'm sure that 2 billion went to Qatari companies. And a very tiny percent went to materials and slave labor.

Also kickback bribes to FIFA officials

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u/Usual-Librarian-3439 1d ago

Yea they didn’t give a shit about the workers. They barely gave any of them any amount of work comp. As you should get if injured on the job through some stupid loophole. Lotta guys came home with kidney failure and now they have to live off of dialysis for pretty much the rest of their lives

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u/VolkspanzerIsME 1d ago

$300 Billion. They spent $300 Billion in total.

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u/Usual-Librarian-3439 1d ago

Holy shit. I must have been talking about a different country. All I knew was that they spent A LOT of money on it.

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u/_CHIFFRE 1d ago

That figure is widely misleading but usually the quoted misleading figure is $220bn by much of the Media and those who copy it.

$6.5bn on Stadiums, $3-5bn on Infrastructure directly relating to the World Cup, the rest of it is part of the Qatar National Vision 2030 plan, which is a huge mega project to transform the whole country. To lump it all together and claim ''Qatar has spend $300bn for the World Cup'' is near on Propaganda, surely anyone would atleast think that this number seems totally sketchy.

More on that here https://www.indiaherald.com/Sports/Read/994552489/FIFA-World-Cup-budget-World-countries-are-surprised

Unfortunately i haven't found any Western media outlet going as much into detail, only this Indian site that reminds me of the 2000s Internet era.

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u/johnny-faux 1d ago

How much did america spend for the next World Cup then? 🤔

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u/matrinox 1d ago

Might change with the change in voting to the congress

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u/Usual-Librarian-3439 1d ago

Possibly, even then politicians can still be bought and sold by the highest bidder.

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u/Gingrpenguin 1d ago

Same reason one person doesn't go on strike. If one player did it its career over for them. If one team did it they're never playing another world Cup. You need a critical mass of players to do so and teams don't trust each other to follow through

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u/BigFellaMPT 1d ago

Woah it’s like profit runs the world or something- also, why does Pantone own colors ?

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u/Icy-Conclusion-3500 1d ago

They don’t own colors, just a way of cataloging them

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u/HeistPlays 1d ago

Because profit runs the world

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u/RnDanger 1d ago

Pantone doesn't own colors, they maintain a list of them which they will let you use for a fee

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u/ShakemySpear8 1d ago

A lot of players tried to support a cause like human rights in Palestine and raised the flag but they got banned or sued, and no one ever talked about it and everyone agreed to not include politics in Football, even it was more about human rights why should it be different for the armband thing? A flag is a flag isnt?

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u/PokuCHEFski69 1d ago

Like Jesse Owens should have just gone home from Hitlers Olympics??? I think for the final every player for both teams should wear something. The biggest stage. What are the refs going to do? Card everyone? Maybe.

But going home is dumb.

By having a WC there What this has actually done is shine the light on Qatars oppressive laws. It shouldn’t be there, but hey, we are talking about the injustice.

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u/PixelGaligar 1d ago

Oh so now Reddit goes blind to photoshop? Any other time this whole website can spot a slightly crooked shadow that somehow gave it away, but not this?

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u/EasyMoneyClutch 1d ago

how profound, going there, still playing there, not really saying anything, but hey, they got a white band on that’s not even rainbow colored

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u/the_joy_of_VI 1d ago

I mean, this is literally just photoshopped on there

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u/OffendedByMyInnuendo 1d ago

Talk about empty gestures.

Johan Cruyff actually boycotted the 1978 World Cup in Argentina, which was governed by a military junta at the time, and blew his best chance at ever getting a World Cup trophy.

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u/basicpoetry 1d ago

I think this is actually not true. He did not go to the World Cup, because he almost got kidnapped

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u/Zenstation83 1d ago

That is a very good point. And we are talking about a legend of the game. It's like if Messi had said he wouldn't play in this World Cup. But football sold its soul a long time ago. Today's players don't think like that.

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u/cobelelle 1d ago

Nope that's not true. Cyruff didn't go because of the attempting kidnapping in 1977.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2008/apr/17/newsstory.sport

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u/koleton_ 1d ago

Empty gesture?? Wtf playing in the World Cup is a lot of these people dream. They’re not gonna not play because he’s not allowed to wear a rainbow. Not everyone has the same priorities as you and he still made a gesture anyways even tho he doesn’t owe it to anyone to make a gesture at all. Dickhead

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u/robanthonydon 1d ago

I’m getting really sick of this self righteous virtue signalling bullshit. You know all the money you’re spending on your holiday/ trip to Quatar is funding the regime anyway? You’re probably lounging by a pool some those now dead workers built, feeling morally superior because your stunning and brave enough to wear a silly armband? Why did you even go in the first place if you’re that outraged?

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u/nio151 1d ago

Now its a Pantone ad?

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u/Monketsu 1d ago

Woah! Hold up. Pantone is clearly a registered trademark. Pretty sure you owe them at LEAST 14.95$ a month

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u/lostabroad1030 1d ago

When Qatar refuses to pay $15 for the Pantone plug-in

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u/WhoAWei 1d ago

This'll teach them! I expect men in Qatar to be kissing in public by the end of this world cup🤝🏼

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u/Meatslinger 1d ago

This is some photoshopped bullshit. The black lines are perfectly straight.

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u/ulterakillz 1d ago

Bro's getting a copyright strike from pantone any second now

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u/lil_crybaby 1d ago

I don't get why the biggest soccer event in the world is taking place in a country so full of its stupid bullshit like Qatar.

"Oh, you're scared of some colors and won't allow people to wear whatever tf they want? Dude, fuck you and your homophobic bs, we're taking our event to some decent place worth of it." That's how things should work in my opinion, but hey, that's why I'm a redditor and not the person in charge of it. I still think it's beyond stupid tho.

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u/Fredn40 1d ago

It's all about money, you don't have to go further than that

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u/zelcuh 1d ago

To the people saying "just don't play." No one is gonna take a pay cut or get a fine or throw away everything they work for. These guys have things to lose

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u/Av3ngedAngel 1d ago

I imagine most of these athletes have literally spent their entire lives training and looking forward to being able to compete at that level too. It's not a small thing to say 'just don't play' . It's literally 'give up your life-long dream' for some of these athletes.

It's FIFA that's responsible. Fuck FIFA, not the individual athletes.

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u/Gm130993 1d ago

Ye, they could not play but that's basically their whole life and if they don't play, not only they will pay for breaking a contract and (considering the corruption) they will probably not be working again

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u/SoggyKaleidoscopes 1d ago

We all have things to lose.

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u/capitalsfan08 1d ago

Yeah it's like expecting coal miners to refuse to work in the name of climate change action. Why don't we punish the capital that enables this rather than the labor that's just trying to make a living?

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u/SaganMeister18 1d ago

Why isn’t it in Hexadecimal!!!

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u/FirstDagger 1d ago

Because RGB/Hex is used on computer things, while CMYK/Pantone is used for Print.

Different color spaces.

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u/baconit4eva 1d ago

Fuck capitalism, I have to subscribe to use those color palettes in Adobe.

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u/MrHyperion_ 1d ago

That will be $100 per month

-Pantone

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u/1ndridC0ld 1d ago

Sadly Photoshopped. I respect people's right to support whatever they want. But you can tell this isn't real. It's too cleanly made.

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u/IBumpedMyHeadAsBaby 1d ago

When your license to use color expires

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u/Excellent-Pattern119 1d ago

Even being fake and "clever" (except maybe for using a proprietary system), FIFA' lawyers are more clever: the rule that FIFA invoked to forbid the rainbow armbands is: all the equipment used at fields, all, even the water bottles, bandages, towels, EVERYTHING must be the ones FIFA provides. This rule is enforced by years: the fourth referee goes to the dressing room to check that even an insole or sock is not the one FIFA provided. Theoretically this is to make all teams compete in equal conditions and keep all advertisements under FIFA control and avoid any political messages.A Catch 22 for a rule theoretically created for other alleged reasons. Off course when Qatar "changed its mind" and forbade the selling of alcohol on stadiums and began to confiscate rainbow flags used by people (including a Pernambuco flag, one Brazilian state that always had a rainbow on it) conveniently after all people already paid and arrived FIFA only scheduled an "emergency meeting"and that is it No 500 millions fine, no punitive measure, only that for the greatest scam ever made by a country.
I would add that I would like to see some protest for the treatment of women on that country too and all the other abuses committed in name of religions that live in the Middle Ages.

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u/cndn_hippo 22h ago

I wish this were true because that would have been a great act of defiance

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u/Lartnestpasdemain 1d ago

Most ridiculous thing I've ever seen

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u/Scary_Cricket_4309 1d ago

This is exactly the kind of gesture I'd expect from a group of people who get paid to pretend to be hurt

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u/Deepspacecow12 1d ago

This is the kind of photoshop I'd expect of someone trying to get a reaction

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u/SirFozzSea 1d ago

So basically a French flag.

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u/Spideral1 1d ago

Reminds me of when Captain Holt was explaining the Corn Crake to Kevin lol

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u/mel_bell123 1d ago

Big brain move 🧠🤯

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u/DreadSeverin 1d ago

nice concept! I think hex codes (web colours) would work better as Pantone is a company and so paygates their colours, so it would be more accessible andnopen. Love this tho

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u/Lower_Scallion_9992 1d ago

Because in their eyes and mind Homosexuals are evil and should be killed

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u/carlitobradlin 1d ago

The new Pantone licensing agreement through Adobe is hitting hard 🤣🤣🤣

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u/CodeMonkeyX 1d ago

Or when you don't pay the $15 monthly subscription to Pantone for the privilege to use their stupid color books.

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u/redddcrow 1d ago

Pantone trying to restore their "image" after starting their disgusting subscription based colors? The final customers dont give a single shit if a color is slighlty off btw...

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u/Revenga8 1d ago

Ooooh the licensing fees from pantone to pull this off though...

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u/Theraphosalives 1d ago

That armband costs $16000 in liscencing fees

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u/StillPracticingLife 1d ago

I worked having to pantone match ink for years, I actually see colours instead of numbers... how sad

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u/ArchLad 1d ago

Even FIFA doesn't want to pay the 15 dollars a month too access colours, sorry guys, no more colours for you .

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u/JanKaszanka 1d ago

What does that acomplish? It's the white flag of surrender.

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u/Late_Necessary2414 1d ago

Whirled cup shame!

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u/DexesLT 1d ago

Oh wow who is this brave soul....

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u/Mk3d2 1d ago

I don’t think 42k people know Pantone colors.

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u/Shurigin 1d ago

someone should make some qr code bands

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u/Krapferl 1d ago

POV: you forgot to pay the pantone license

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u/Yogibearff2 1d ago

Just end FIFA

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u/josh252 1d ago

Some things can't be stopped

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u/mareumbra 1d ago

Did they pay the fees for the Pantone colour usage.