This past week has been a massive success in terms of engagement and growth in the community. As most of you have seen, we've just completed our "Week of Giveaways" event, where had approximately 60 different vendors and makers contribute giveaways to the community!
This type of temporary giveaway event allows the posts to be focused in a specific period of time, leading to greater user engagement with the giveaway posts compared to if they were active all the time, and allowing for organic discussion to occur when the event isn't active.
This also allows us to review the giveaways for rules compliance, to ensure they are not intrusively mining user's PII, or violating Reddit sitewide TOS. To reiterate the rules, outside of preapproved subreddit wide events, giveaways are not permitted on the subreddit. This rule was brought about last year due to excessive spam that was harming user engagement and discussion post visibility.
Some of you may be unfamiliar with me - I am the newest moderator of r/MechanicalKeyboards - my background comes from the trading platforms that I also moderate, such as r/MechMarket (where I am primarily responsible for scammer ticket investigations and back end development such as Automoderator rules), and my personal passion in the hobby are artisan keycaps. One of the major community event projects I ran at r/MechMarket was a Charity Fundraiser event earlier this year, and I hope that we can continue to create interesting and meaningful events in the community that unite users from various backgrounds.
Naturally, r/MechMarket and r/MechanicalKeyboards, while closely related subreddits, also have very different focuses. Group Buys, Interest Checks, Vendor, and Artisan posts are common between both subreddits, with appropriate flairs for each, but r/MechanicalKeyboards is intended to be a discussion oriented subreddit and a resource for those learning the hobby, while r/MechMarket is meant to facilitate safe trading peer to peer for users by banning scammers and informing users how to conduct transactions safely. Thus, on r/MechanicalKeyboards, to foster the community, we're engaging in a a few initiatives:
Subreddit Reorganization + Rules & Policy Updates:
- The Moderators agree not to entertain any offers to purchase the subreddit nor any offers for paid promotion. If such offers are made, the rest of the team should be informed.
- We have added and clarified new post flairs to make it easier to navigate the subreddit:
- News / META - this is for hobby wide announcements, vendor scamming PSA, and meta user guides
- Promotional - or derivative flairs Group Buy / Interest Check, will be required for ALL posts that are promoting a product or service, or the prototypes / sneak peeks from companies / makers of said products, as well as sales reported by any user
- Meetups - this is primarily for the organization and announcement of upcoming meetups
- Discussion - general discussion posts which are not help requests - the latter belongs in the pinned daily help requests megathread.
- Review - these are reserved for detailed reviews of products / services, but any conflicts of interests must be disclosed - astroturfing is expressly prohibited. Simple feedback about a product is generally more appropriate for Discussion flair
- Poll - quick surveys / votes / research, that are NOT promotional or help requests
- Guide - useful guides that help the community assemble, mod, or diagnose their keyboard
- Photos - general multimedia content, typically with short captions if any
- We have added a rule that is solidifying our Stance Against Counterfeits:
- The following content (advocating for or posting the links of) is prohibited:
- Unauthorized counterfeits intended to be indistinguishable from original, 1:1 copies
- Infringes on original brand name, logos and artwork (incl. novelty keycaps)
- Violates copyright, trademark, or patents with valid claims (not covered by Fair Use) presented by the IP holder
- When present with other rules violations such as astroturfing, we will issue suspensions. It is important to remember that if you're an IP holder, it is your legal responsibility to report infringing content, while being cognizant of Fair Use Provisions.
- These rule changes were spurred due to a recent proliferation of counterfeits as well as extensive IP abuses leading to negative ramifications in the hobby, harming other companies, and leading to increased restrictions from manufacturers.
- We reserve the right to ban content from companies that are harming the community via extensive and malicious IP, especially in the presence of other rule violations such as astroturfing and harassment
- It is imperative that community members report infringing content, and to remember that we are not a sales platform, nor making any guarantees. We do not hold or accept liability for counterfeit products and IP infringement, but are respecting IP in the interest of protecting the community.
- Novelties and names are subject to copyright. The colours themselves are not. This rule doesn't prohibit posting a picture of a keyboard with a clone of a keyset that uses similar colours - however, trademark and patent infringements are much more strict
- The following content (advocating for or posting the links of) is prohibited:
- We have added rules clarifications, such as the requirement for disclosure of conflicts of interest, as well as that subreddit issues should be escalated to ModMail for impartial assessment by the whole team.
Wiki Overhaul Project:
r/MechanicalKeyboards & r/MechMarket are collaborating to update and publish a central and community sourced wiki for our hobby! I will personally be overseeing and coordinating the wiki overhaul project, with assistance from u/Cobertt of MechGroupBuys as the lead editor. Old articles that do not fit the scope of the project with be archived, and other articles will be updated alongside the addition of new ones. u/HoffmanMyster of Geekhack/Drop will also be assisting us with this project.
This will encompass everything from Introductory Beginner Guides and FAQ, to more Advanced Topics such as Keyboard Modding, The Group Buy Process, Rendering, PCB Design + Firmware Customization, and the Ins and Outs of Custom Switches, as well as fun topics like Keyboard & Artisan Hobby History and Meetups.
This means they really need your feedback and contributions! If you like to contribute in any way or maybe have already existing articles that could fit, please fill out this form with the topic you wish to present: https://forms.gle/72CLnyb8UYBDGg7R9
u/drschlock, one of the original founding moderators of the subreddit is back!
The r/MechanicalKeyboards moderators ( /u/drSchlock, /u/Dryver, and I) are working closely together as a team to ensure the new direction of the platform represents the best interests of the greater community, and to facilitate collaboration and communication across multiple platforms.
All staff are required to adhere to the Moderator Code of Conduct to stay accountable. In the long term, however, we will need staff that can take over the daily content moderation across multiple regions. If you are interested, be sure to apply here: https://forms.gle/hFTYTfDnAMcAHeHR6
As mentioned previously, we intend to hold more community events, and will also be releasing a survey soon to gather your input on what you would like to see from the subreddit. Regarding the giveaway event, you can expect similar giveaway events to happen once or twice per year, but we hope that those will not be the only events that we feature on the subreddit!
Ask ANY question, get an answer. But *before* you do please consider running a search on the subreddit or looking at the /r/MechanicalKeyboards wiki [located here](http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/wiki/wiki_navigation)! If you are NEW to Reddit [check out this handy Reddit /r/MechanicalKeyboards Noob Guide](http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/wiki/redditnoob_tips).
This letter is specifically about the GMMK Pro Keyboard. I have had some pretty good products from them before, but this specific product is making me more and more angry as I work on more and more.
Dear Glorious Gaming,
Firstly let me start by introducing myself. This is by no means me trying to brag or throw credentials out there, but it will give you an idea of my experience, and hopefully give some kind of credence to this letter. I am what I like to call an Artisan. I have worked on keyboards for over 3 years professionally, 10 years in a more hobby capacity and have been into the Mechanical Keyboard scene for over 30 years. I've earned my stripes. I've worked on countless boards. I've lubed so many switches it will make your eyes water and I've customized and repaired a LOT of boards.
With that out of the way, I want to address a problem that has been brooding in my mind for a while now, and I really hope you feel like this is something that needs attention. I worked on my first GMMK Pro just after launch, and built a board for a customer that I was pretty proud of. Yes, there were problems with the Stabs, they were shit! No problem, lets put Durock v2 Stabs in as they are not shit! Oh wait, they don't fit, okay, I'll give the benefit of the doubt and mod the plate to make them fit. The board was delivered to the customer, and he was happy. This board had KBDFans PBT keycaps on it, and thank God it did, because if it had worse keycaps on it, I would have heard the glaring sound problems in the board, and not really have known what to do.
Fast forward a year later, and I have just worked on my 15th board, a customers board no less. And there are problems, some you know about, and some I'm sure you have turned a deaf ear to, but man oh man are there problems!
Without going into story format here,. let me just put down the serious problems that I feel is seriously robbing people of their hard earned cash:
1) Every Single GMMK Pro that I have worked on has been a completely different experience from the one before, with some have minor problems and others are write-offs.
2) Every board, for some or other reason sounds completely different. I truly believe that you are using crap quality Aluminium or an alloy. One of the two. The one I just finished sounded like tin.
3) How on God's green earth do you create a gasket mount design, but it's not able to actually move when you screw the case together.
4) The optional plates you sell range between below average to unusable. They are shit. FR4 or aftermarket is the only true option.
5) I have no idea what your gaskets are made out of, but they start disintegrating within one week of use. Did you just take human heel filings and mix them together with a weak glue and then press out some shapes.
6) They are too thin as well.
7) Your foam is shit too. And inconsistent. Sometimes it mutes the sound so much and other times I feel like I could've farted into the case and it would have provided more sound insulation.
8) The amount of money it costs to procure your board, then buy aftermarket parts to fix all the problems, factoring the cost of someone to do the massive amount of work to get the board sounding good, puts the price of this board well over Entry Level/Mid tier, and firmly into the realm of High End Price. This is not a good thing or a compliment. If you truly believe this board is a High end piece of equipment, God help us all.
9) You clearly do not know or understand your competition. Period. Boards from Akko/Keychron/CannonKeys/NovelKeys/Meletrix/KBDFans are literal Galaxies ahead in assembly, use and feel.
10) Some of the solder work on your board looks like my dog did it, after a really heavy party, while all four legs are in a cast. No, he cannot solder either.
11) The cost of your switches, aftermarket plates, accessories and merch is also overpriced. Very overpriced.
I truly believe you are seriously doing the Custom Keyboard scene a major disservice. Why, you may ask? Well if a first time buyer of a Custom Mechanical Keyboard buys one of these, I can truly understand why they might think the hobby is filled with a bunch of idiots who blow ridiculous amounts of money of overpriced, hyped up truly mediocre keyboards, because that's exactly what this board is. I even tried to sell myself on this board, and put it down to me being picky and someone who has unrealistic expectations. But alas, I was wrong. After using your competitors products, I sorry to tell you that you are swimming in a pool way to deep for you. Maybe you should stick to the paddling pool.
Glorious, I'm sorry I had to write this letter to you, but someone had too. I see so many people online justifying their purchase of the GMMK Pro, and I don't blame them, They are not justifying it out of loyalty to your brand, I can assure you of that, they are doing it because they spent $300-$500 dollars of their hard earned money on something that $100 and a little elbow grease can outperform.
You should make things right with customers who purchased this board. Not by offering a 10% discount on your next "Greatest Keyboard".
You should ship them one for free, or give people the option of a no questions asked refund.
But you won't, so that's why I am want this letter to go far and wide and discourage anyone from buying the GMMK Pro in it's current form.
Go on, prove me wrong, Make this right. Make a product that is actually mind blowing and get it to the people who have been affected by this. I dare you!!!!
PS Thanks for all the business you've sent my way by selling this board, and then people send it to me to get fixed, but I'd rather be spending my time building awesome customized keyboards instead!!
Back almost 2 years ago i had purchased 2 cables from Rosecables. Not to go fully into details what happened but basically the company went belly up it was a whole fiasco and u/Omnias-42 From mechmarket discord stepped in created a ticket system to try and get refunds for people that never recieved a cable. After being ghosted by the owner of Rosecables a member from the community steppped in (Shawn From CableMod) They coordinated with u/Omnias-42 who has no association with either company. I was given a Code for 2 free cables from CableMod shipping and everything was paid for from them! They saw the crappy situation and jumped in to help out the people that basically just had there money stolen.
Im not much of a reddit person but just wanted to shout out a great thing and great people that turned a bad situation into something amazing. I truely thought i was never going to see the money or the cables.
Much Love to CableMod you guys have a customer for life!
Photos Just got my first GMK set today. Dots R2 on Keychron Q2 with NK Silk Milkshake switches on Dots Line Deskmat.gallery
Bought the GMMK polycarb plate around the time I got the GMMK for Christmas, in order to try and change the sound profile. Installed it, and it was a nice sound. A good amount softer,
But that's not why you shouldn't buy it. Soon after, I realized that the keys on the right and left edges of the board were kinda angled out. It sometimes caused some interference, with the top case, and made them pop out sometimes. It wasn't that big of a deal for me, so I kept it.
The like a month later, I decided to change switches. And as I was changing switches, I noticed that the plate BARELY holds the swicthes. Like, I was basically able to just pop them out with just a single finger under the keycap. I also noticed that the plate was cracked everywhere. This is like after a few months of use.
None of that really affected performance, so I kept on using it. That was until the past few months. I started noticing that the switches would pop out just during normal use. I also slowly realized that the sound profile that I liked when I got the plate was completely different. I think the cracking of the plate ruined the sound, and the cracking was MUCH worse. It was basically broken at this point.
I swapped it out for the original alu plate, and it sounds so much better, and the keys are much more stable. Waste of $20.