Karen followed me out of CIRA to continue harassing me for asking her son not to pull back the curtains to the dressing room (he did it to me when I was half naked). Her husband and family then charge up and assault my husband I front of our sons. Karen and sister then assault me for recording. WTF!

[u/[deleted]]

[u/Romano16]

Karen and her husband are assholes, without a doubt.

But as a reminder, no doxxing is allowed here.

Rule 1 will be enforced.

[u/bad13wolf]

People look so stupid when they telegraph their punches like that.

[u/hewlandrower → u/bad13wolf]

I work in ped psych and that's what the little kids do when they want to try to intimidate an adult lol

[u/wekkins → u/hewlandrower]

Was going to say, this looks like an intimidation thing, and not a fight thing. I don't think that guy actually wants a full blown physical altercation.

[u/Crunkbutter → u/wekkins]

His fight history comprises of a shoving match at a frat party where someone threw an empty beer can at him.

[u/Obie_Tricycle → u/Crunkbutter]

That was my exact thought. I used to bounce at shitty college bars in my undergrad and law school days and he's the exact kind of guy who would spend 30 minutes making a huge deal out of taking off his baseball cap, then his sunglasses, then his shitty graphic t-shirt, then empty out the pockets of his cargo shorts, and by then, hopefully one of us bouncers will have stepped in and stopped the "fight" (eta: and if not, then it would turn into an additional 30 minutes of "hold me back, bro/why I oughta knock your block off!" play acting)

Fucking clowns...

[u/SobBagat → u/wekkins]

Looking at the two, shovey guy would have gotten his ass beat

[u/WuttaRichard → u/SobBagat]

Dude was charging his punch up like he’s playing smash bros

[u/Barney_Haters → u/SobBagat]

100% posturing. This dude couldn't through a punch to save his life. He's was off balance coming in.

[u/Burque_Boy → u/bad13wolf]

Guy is a better man than me. Some guy pushes me with his eyes clothes and holds up a cartoon punch like this seems like an easy ass whooping and an open and shut self defense case.

[u/ManufacturedOlympus → u/Burque_Boy]

It felt like he was about to start saying "why I aught'a" while winding up his punch, hoping to leave a Diglett shaped bruise on top of the guy's head.

[u/ThePasadena_Mudslide]

I like how she wasn't concerned about filming until her husband assaulted the other guy.

[u/Facetious_T → u/ThePasadena_Mudslide]

She is also committed committing assault immediately before as she's asking "why are you filmiiiinggg?"

[u/BlahBlahBleeBlahh]

“Why are you filmmminnggggg”

[u/Own_Bison507 → u/BlahBlahBleeBlahh]

Haha that's the part where Karen knows her family in the wrong~

[u/Eddie_Shepherd → u/Own_Bison507]

She realized her husband just committed assault on camera and panicked herself into committing assault on camera. Brilliant.

[u/Own_Bison507 → u/Eddie_Shepherd]

It's almost like you can hear the voice in her head saying "shit shit shit shit it's on camera shitttttt"

[u/northshore12 → u/Own_Bison507]

Classic "negotiation whining" tactic. The aggressively high pitch accusation is meant to create two sides to a situation that clearly only has one side. It's the Karen's version of the old lawyer wisdom: "If you have the facts on your side, pound the facts; if you have the law on your side, pound the law; if you have neither the facts nor the law, pound the table."

[u/qwikfingers → u/northshore12]

Never heard this version of the quote before. I believe the original is:

"If the facts are on your side, talk about the facts. If the law is on your side, talk about the law. If the facts and the law are not on your side, talk about the prosecutor."

[u/Prof_Acorn → u/Own_Bison507]

Reminds me of this one incident years ago some Karen's pocket dog bit my leg and it drew blood. She was super apologetic until I asked for her number in case it got infected. I didn't have health insurance and I thought since her poorly trained shitdog bit me she would be willing to do what was necessary.

Instead she went into full panic mode, started blaming me for harassing her, calling me an asshole, and made a b-line toward her condo complex.

The Karen subspecies cannot handle feelings of guilt. They go full DARVO panic when faced with it.

[u/CaptainBayouBilly → u/Prof_Acorn]

Just in case this situation ever happens again, call animal control and the health department. Any animal bite should be considered rabid unless proven otherwise (current animal vaccine etc.). If the animal is not current on their rabies vaccination, there are protocols (post exposure vaccination etc.) that are very important and timely.

The animals must be put in quarantine and observed, and the owners are responsible for any medical expenses for the victim.

[u/TheConnASSeur → u/CaptainBayouBilly]

This. This. This. This. THIS

By the time you show symptoms of rabies you're already dead. Your corpse just gets to suffer for a few more days/weeks. Do not fuck around with rabies.

[u/Mitch_Mitcherson → u/TheConnASSeur]

I have a friend who works for the health department, and they work on animal bite/ rabies cases. I only have this to say:

STOP PETTING RACCOONS, YOU FUCKING MORONS!

[u/Stegosaurus_Pie → u/Mitch_Mitcherson]

Daily reminder that, untreated in a timely manner, rabies is one of the few viruses known with a 100% mortality rate

[u/Mitch_Mitcherson → u/Stegosaurus_Pie]

What's wild to me is they have to call these people and tell them to get vaccinated, and they argue with them about it!

I know it's expensive, but even if animal control has the animal and is testing it, you want to at least start the series. You don't know when they'll have the results saying if the animal was rabid, but you do want to prevent catching rabies ASAP if it was.

[u/Healthy-Cupcake2429 → u/Mitch_Mitcherson]

Dude... The amount of people I've seen be like "awww they're so cute" and feed or coax raccoons closer is astonishing.

I don't have a problem with raccoons but it's mind boggling how people go "wild animal... Let's pet it!"

[u/Artemesia123 → u/Prof_Acorn]

The Karen subspecies cannot handle feelings of guilt.

Small correction, I'd suggest changing feelings of guilt to consequences. I'm not sure someone like this feels guilt

[u/Locke_and_Load → u/Eddie_Shepherd]

And battery. That dude came up with his “my sons little league team just lost bad even though I paid hundreds of dollars for coaching and my dad didn’t hug me enough to fill the void now occupied by cheap wine and White Claw” energy.

[u/captivecreator → u/Locke_and_Load]

Triggered as im sipping on a 4$ wine

[u/SRTroN → u/captivecreator]

Are you enjoying it? Are you being sensible? If so you do you my friend!

[u/Amanystya → u/Own_Bison507]

Doubt she actually showed any hint of remorse or self-awareness for her actions though

[u/Own_Bison507 → u/Amanystya]

Oh definitely zero remorse, she just thought by smacking the phone away she might have somehow destroy evidence of assault.

[u/strunkle → u/BlahBlahBleeBlahh]

Filmmmminnggggguh*

[u/throwawayhyperbeam → u/strunkle]

Oh my gawwwwduh

[u/pmyourdadbod → u/BlahBlahBleeBlahh]

Ughhh that made my ears bleed. Her face, her voice. She is the absolute poster child for Karens

[u/JohnnyJohnCowboyMan → u/pmyourdadbod]

Would you rather fight a horse-faced Karin, or a Karin-faced horse?

[u/AlexJonestwnMassacre → u/JohnnyJohnCowboyMan]

itsthesamepicture.jpg

[u/55Bandit → u/BlahBlahBleeBlahh]

The audacity to question why someone is filming her and her husband commit assault. That's true privilege.

[u/Glitch3dNPC → u/55Bandit]

As the old saying goes:

"When you're used to privilege for so long. Equality feels like oppression."

[u/farcense → u/BlahBlahBleeBlahh]

Translation: “ah shit I’m about to get fired”

[u/YVR_Matt_]

Fort Collins police chief put out a video on twitter 20 minutes ago stating that 4 people were charged with disorderly conduct as a result of their investigation.

https://twitter.com/fcpolice/status/1555987062276374529?s=21

Edit: added link

[u/SweetChi2020 → u/YVR_Matt_]

The 4 people ticketed were of the same family.

[u/debacchatio]

I wonder where their son learned such awful behavior?

[u/TheLevelHeadedGuy → u/debacchatio]

I mean Karen’s husband immediate wound up for a punch after being the initial aggressor. I don’t think it’s too hard to figure out where such bad habits came from…evidence is a bitch huh?

[u/WaxMyButt → u/TheLevelHeadedGuy]

He had zero intention of throwing that punch. Big dude smiling at him, he knew better, he just wanted to look tough. They probably went home to regale each other with how badass they are.

[u/goodmobileyes → u/WaxMyButt]

His fighting moves consist of shouting "HOLD ME BACK BRO!"

[u/7or8beers → u/WaxMyButt]

Yeah for sure. Can tell dude has never thrown a punch nor ever been punched.

[u/abcdefabcdef999 → u/WaxMyButt]

The way he “charges” his punch show he would at best wildly flail. The day he pisses off the wrong guy is the day he’ll have a broken head.

[u/Twichycat → u/abcdefabcdef999]

The best way to signal that you don't know how to fight. He's going to punch air and then eat shit with that move.

[u/Warg247 → u/abcdefabcdef999]

He's holding down Square for that power punch.

[u/abcdefabcdef999 → u/Warg247]

Pressed pause to look up combos

[u/canadarepubliclives → u/abcdefabcdef999]

⬇️↙️⬅️❌

[u/Significant-Mud2572 → u/abcdefabcdef999]

"how long can I telegraph my punch before I finally psych him out?!?". - Tall skinny man's internal dialogue.

[u/Here4St0nks → u/WaxMyButt]

My thoughts exactly. This is what people wanting to look tough, or looking to provoke do. If you’re going to throw hands, you just throw.

[u/indoninja]

I hope you contacted the police after that.

Guy in the Aggies shirt need some repercussions.

[u/Radljost → u/indoninja]

A couple people on the Fort Collins Police Service Facebook page have posted this video. We should flood that page.

[u/vietboi2999 → u/Radljost]

4 adults got charged, they dont give names tho

[u/skoffs → u/Radljost]

r/byebyejob when?

[u/Sbatio → u/skoffs]

This sub is like watching the previews for byebye

[u/I_Get_Paid_to_Shill → u/Sbatio]

It's such a fun pipeline.

PublicFreakout to /r/news -> to /r/byebyejob

Usually with some ThisIsntWhoWeAre and JusticeServed mixed in.

[u/Relevant-Figure2202 → u/skoffs]

I emailed his employer with a link of this video. Now we wait.

[u/sittinwithkitten]

I have three kids, they are all older now and wouldn’t be like this in a store. If one of them pulled back the dressing room curtain on someone changing I would be nothing but apologetic and sorry to the person whose privacy they invaded. So foolish if how this became a shouting and shoving match.

[u/dillon_5294 → u/sittinwithkitten]

Look how the parents act in public...

[u/sittinwithkitten → u/dillon_5294]

How sad for the kids who have to witness it.

[u/funparent → u/sittinwithkitten]

I don't understand the escalation of this. It's a learning opportunity for the kid through natural consequences. I would hope if one of my children did this to someone they would react and correct them.

[u/Kon_Soul → u/sittinwithkitten]

I would say this family has connections in law enforcement or is a part of it themselves, given that the police did nothing even with multiple witnesses, and videos. They even tell OP that she was lucky to be recording or else her husband was going to be arrested. Just your everyday criminals in blue protecting one another, nothing new or out of the ordinary. At least they aren't pretending to investigate themselves and eventually clear themselves of any wrong doings

[u/sentimental_goat → u/Kon_Soul]

That makes sense. The family is in law enforcement or have family members in it. This was clear assault, the charges might have been dropped later or the case dismissed, but this aggression definitely should have led to an arrest.

[u/RelativeBars → u/sentimental_goat]

Whats sad is that calls with this level of aggression aren’t even being responded to in some major cities. I’ve made a call and not had anybody show up before because “we’re short staffed” and “nobody was injured or hurt”

[u/TRIGMILLION]

So did I see this right and she's all pissed off because you yelled at her kid for pulling back your curtain? Maybe she should try parenting her child.

[u/prust89 → u/TRIGMILLION]

Speaking of which…where is their child?

[u/jonessee27 → u/prust89]

You already know. Still in the store pulling back curtains.

[u/Queensthief → u/TRIGMILLION]

I just don't get it. If I put myself in a situation where another adult was forced to correct my behavior, my mom would have thanked them and doubled down on my ass for embarrassing her in public.

[u/susannabean2]

"what are you filminnnngggg??????"

Your husbands jail sentence.

[u/seeclick8]

Jesus Christ. People have lost their minds and civil decorum has gone out the window. I, as a mother, would have apologized and given my son a serious talk about respecting peoples privacy. Her behavior is all kinds of wrong.

[u/TheHarperValleyPTA → u/seeclick8]

I have noticed such a shift in parenting over the last several years as an elementary school teacher. There are some parents who cannot handle their children’s behavior being corrected at ALL. “But he’s 6. But he’s just doing what little boys do!” Right, which is why it is our job to TEACH him, not let him run rampant and avert our gaze! They aren’t born knowing!

If parents refuse to correct their kids, however, they shouldn’t be surprised when society does it for them.

[u/seeclick8 → u/TheHarperValleyPTA]

Yes I agree. I was both an elementary teacher and then middle school counselor for my career of 43 years. I did see a change in behavior. I will never forget when one mother of a middle school kid came into the school ( back before Columbine and the locking of all doors), and marched into the cafeteria where her daughter was lined up for lunch and started yelling at another girl for some kind of disrespect to her daughter. She was promptly escorted out after being explained to about the inappropriateness of that and asked how she would react if someone did that to her daughter. Many years later I had the daughters kids. She was very nice as a mom.

[u/Amelaclya1 → u/TheHarperValleyPTA]

I'm not a teacher, but I came across parents like this when I worked retail. They would just abandon their kids in the toy section. If you tried to clean up behind the kid, you couldn't say anything to them at all, or they would go cry to their parents who would then find you and give you hell for it.

Like, I never said anything if a kid was just quietly and politely looking at things, but occasionally they were doing something unsafe like climbing on the shelves or running around and I had no choice.

[u/Kinet1ca → u/seeclick8]

Yeah this isn't normal behavior from adults, kids do this kinda thing and it doesn't even mean they're pervs, you see a curtain and want to know what's behind it. As you stated the normal reaction should have been to apologize and have a talk with your kid about privacy, it's a pretty low stakes situation, no need to get offended or upset or physically assault someone over it.

[u/ConstructionOk6429]

Fort Collins PD told my husband he’s lucky we got video showing my husband didn’t strike at all or he would’ve been arrested. Neither Karen or her family were arrested which makes PO’s comment to us disturbing and worried about living in Fort Collins. My kids never want to go back to Old Town again…it’s one of our favorite places for family outings. Truly disappointed in this family’s behavior and their choice to attack us. The worst part is these two entitled brats admitted everything to the police in an effort to justify their actions and were still not arrested.

Thanks Fort Collins PD for teaching my children that people can attack you in broad daylight, get caught on video and have multiple witnesses to the event only to not be arrested.

[u/PoopieFaceTomatoNose → u/ConstructionOk6429]

Fort Collins PD told my husband he’s lucky we got video showing my husband didn’t strike at all or he would’ve been arrested.

Am I reading that correctly? They would have arrested YOUR husband were it not for the video - regardless of the witnesses? That's insane!

[u/ConstructionOk6429 → u/PoopieFaceTomatoNose]

Yes. Because the people being filmed assaulting us lied to police saying my husband hit Karen and her husband first, police told us the video cleared my husband from being arrested.

[u/OhSweetConcord → u/ConstructionOk6429]

So when they were told your husband assaulted someone they were going to arrest him on Karen's word. But when they have video evidence of Karen and her husband assaulting you, they let them go? Jesus fucking christ.

[u/[deleted] → u/OhSweetConcord]

They also didn't penalize Karen and husband for making a false report either.

[u/Fun_Range7689 → u/[deleted]]

And cops wonder why they are hated so bad. Lol what a joke.

[u/David-S-Pumpkins → u/[deleted]]

Correct! Take a look at the Chief's statement which included

"People were treated differently! Not true!"

He's not wrong. They treated the victims as perpetrators and charged them with disorderly conduct and also charged the perpetrators with the same charges. Treated the same!

"No one was held accountable. Not true. We charged four adults with disorderly conduct."

That's not holding them accountable. Two people assaulted two others, filed a false report, etc. They were not charged with assault nor cited for filing a false police report. Now they all, I assume seperately, have court dates for disorderly conduct, rather than having them square off for assault charges.

This behavior, meaning the doubling down on puiss-poor police response instead of apologizing and correcting mistakes, is a contributing factor in distrust and disdain towrd law enforcement. And the killing of unarmed black people, corruption, "civil forfeiture", posession of military equipment castoffs, gangs, unchecked racism, favoritism, political influence, lack of accountability, taxpayer funded payouts for legal troubles...

[u/acityonthemoon → u/OhSweetConcord]

US Police officers aren't really required to much of anything. This video is just another example.

[u/John_T_Conover → u/OhSweetConcord]

OP's family looks hispanic. The attackers look like the cops next door neighbors about to call the monthly HOA meeting into session.

That clear things up?

[u/amibeingadick420 → u/John_T_Conover]

“That clear things up?”

If not, then what he’s saying is that cops all are, and all always have been, racist swine.

Fuck all cops.

[u/Spartan-182 → u/OhSweetConcord]

I just can't put the white finger on why that is...

[u/elmrsglu → u/OhSweetConcord]

Husband isn’t white. The assaulting family is white.

Racism in action reinforced by Police Department training.

[u/bhsvhssfgjc → u/ConstructionOk6429]

Pleeeeease contact your local news outlets. Posting this on Reddit is only going to do so much.

[u/reddittttttttttt → u/ConstructionOk6429]

So they assaulted you and impeded an investigation by telling a bold faced lie to the cops? Fuck them

[u/creamyturtle → u/reddittttttttttt]

giving false statements to the police is actually a crime but it's rarely prosecuted

[u/Darkshine_Simp → u/ConstructionOk6429]

Report this to the media.

[u/indoninja → u/ConstructionOk6429]

Did you get a police report from them?

I’d be putting this up all over Facebook in the area linking it to local government and the police’s Facebook account, I’d also be contacting local news and complaining how the police allowed someone to shove your husband and thought it was ok.

[u/ConstructionOk6429 → u/indoninja]

That’s why I’m posting on Reddit! I truly can’t believe these people got away with harassing and attacking my family!

[u/Em42 → u/ConstructionOk6429]

Post it to your police departments Twitter or Facebook. Tag it as something like #assaultnotillegalinFtCollins or I don't know think of something clever. You'll get more attention from the people you're trying to get attention from, instead of just general attention. Most police departments have Twitter or FB accounts now, but they don't have Reddit accounts.

[u/wagmiyo → u/Em42]

Fort Collins, CO

It is NOW on Facebook https://fb.watch/eKsoK0FmQZ/ but seems the victims got charged??????

https://twitter.com/CBSNewsColorado

https://www.fcgov.com/news/local-media

[u/HyperVideoGames → u/wagmiyo]

I thought he said pd Twitter. The news isn't the pd Twitter

https://twitter.com/FCPolice

[u/GoodOlSpence → u/HyperVideoGames]

Just checked their Twitter, definitely thought I'd see it on there by now.

[u/nicolauz → u/GoodOlSpence]

It's there, all 4 were charged - https://twitter.com/FCPolice/status/1555987062276374529?t=NblDwKIJCsbiEG3QVHiMXw&s=19

[u/BoardwalkKnitter → u/nicolauz]

They just followed up with another tweet saying all 4 charged are related to each other. Since the original wording made it sound like the victims were arrested too.

[u/StuffNbutts → u/BoardwalkKnitter]

The Chief of Police has piss poor communication skills imagine what talking to the officers was like lmao

[u/QuicklyThisWay → u/BoardwalkKnitter]

My idiot brain still read it wrong as the victims and offenders were in the same group and related… took me reading more to understand that 4 people from the same family SEPARATE from the victims were charged. The police did their job, but need to work on communication for sure.

[u/GoodOlSpence → u/nicolauz]

Well that's an interesting turn of events.

[u/Sevnfold → u/GoodOlSpence]

Theres a video statement posted 5 mins ago. Sergeant says 4 adults were charged with disorderly conduct. I'm guessing both sets of parents? (update: 4 adults from one family, so I'm assuming the pushy husband and his relatives.) I dont know the whole honest truth of what happened and who did what, but I definitely saw a 1 guy shove another, so hopefully he gets a fine or something.

[u/DCMoving17 → u/Sevnfold]

Clarified all 4 from same family.

[u/wagmiyo → u/wagmiyo]

POLICE HAVE DONE NOTHING

[u/Mdnitesnack → u/wagmiyo]

Standard protocol

[u/HWGA_Exandria → u/Mdnitesnack]

They're supposed to wait an hour. Like when you go swimming or a school shooting. Fuck colorado.

[u/ChemicalAssociate885 → u/HWGA_Exandria]

Colorado ended qualified immunity for police in the state so while things aren’t perfect here they’re moving in a positive direction

[u/PauI_MuadDib → u/wagmiyo]

Stories and tips can be sent here too.

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/contact-denver7#contact

[u/1TrueKnight → u/Em42]

Fast forward 6 months... OP and family are harassed enough by local PD that they move out of town.

[u/CaptainBayouBilly → u/1TrueKnight]

The police are not allies, nor are they interested in protecting anything but capital. It sucks, but the system gives them the power to do basically as they please.

I'm not sure what function the police actually provide to society? They're just goons that harass the public, and work as tax-payer funded security for private capital.

[u/penny-wise → u/CaptainBayouBilly]

Their value diminishes as we go forward. Defunding them doesn’t sound so stupid after all.

[u/888mainfestnow → u/Em42]

Have someone else without ties to the city do that as doing that as a resident is asking for retaliation from the PD.

Just my opinion

[u/iceflame1211 → u/Em42]

Post it to their Facebook account and ask if your husband in this situation had the right to defend himself/stand his ground with lethal force against the aggressive man. That'll surely get a conversation started, as people will have varying answers. Possibly big enough to get noticed by local media. Or just contact local media with an email, including the story and the video. Keep in mind they'll try and find/contact the others for their side though...

[u/MrArizone → u/ConstructionOk6429]

I’m sorry this happened to you and your family. Those people are crazy and it sucks they ruined visiting that area for you. I hope you guys get some peace in all of this. Also, kudos to your hubby for not swinging on that loser…

[u/jmims98 → u/ConstructionOk6429]

I thought this looked like foco. We actually have a subreddit, not sure if you can post it there.

r/fortcollins

[u/Mikazukinoyaiba → u/jmims98]

Asshat accused OP of changing the narrative:

https://www.reddit.com/r/FortCollins/comments/whsfh6/karen_followed_me_out_of_cira_to_continue/ij7fyvr?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3

[u/TheLevelHeadedGuy → u/ConstructionOk6429]

Whether or not they’re arrested you need to have a police report filed. It’s probably the likes of misdemeanor assault which would probably constitute a fine or probation but it’s something.

[u/sonofsochi → u/ConstructionOk6429]

Time to go to the mediaaaa

[u/AdvancedManner4718 → u/ConstructionOk6429]

Don't just post it here, post it on any local community Facebook page they have for Fort Collins and the surrounding areas. Tell everyone what had happened even what the police said to you. Someone they know will definitely recognize them and would be really embarrassing for them if this video went viral in their local area.

[u/137thaccount → u/ConstructionOk6429]

You must contact local news. If you want anything to happen to these people and worse the cops that is a step in the right direction. Public pressure.

[u/Korach → u/ConstructionOk6429]

So wait…your husband would have been arrested except that the video showed he didn’t do anything. But the video also captures a man assaulting your husband and that guy didn’t get arrested?
That’s fucked.

[u/Korach → u/[deleted]]

Unreal.

America is broken.

[u/hiddenrealism → u/Korach]

Especially the police. Everyone from my highschool class who became a cop was the stereotypical "got picked on so has something to prove" or the braindead jock "who's dad's a cop so ima be a cop too"

I'm glad I moved out of state because some of those guys I wouldnt trust to watch my cat for 5 minutes.

[u/ThumpyDumpkins → u/Korach]

Why are the police so eager to arrest the victims of a violent crime while letting the perpetrators walk away?

[u/HaileSelassieII → u/ConstructionOk6429]

Your local news will be very interested in this story, highly recommend reaching out to them

[u/I_Get_Paid_to_Shill → u/HaileSelassieII]

Hispanic family attacked by white family with a pervy son.

Police take the side of the violent white family.

A tale as old as time...

[u/QBeeDew52 → u/ConstructionOk6429]

Kyle Clark! He isn’t afraid:

https://twitter.com/kyleclark?s=21&t=tpM-WGYLsi0kfJ7mEcUB8A

[u/Solid_Scum → u/QBeeDew52]

I came here to say this. Kyle Clark eats this kind of shit for breakfast.

[u/Delta080 → u/ConstructionOk6429]

Contact the local DA with your videos, tell them the police failed to arrest them, and ask your DA to press criminal charges. If you happen to have a copy of the police report then supply that too.

[u/Mittens1018 → u/ConstructionOk6429]

Perhaps go to your local news station to share the video

[u/Skinnypike42 → u/ConstructionOk6429]

Fuck Fort Collins Police Department

[u/chillig8 → u/ConstructionOk6429]

Post it on r/FtCollins probably where people know them

[u/swerve421 → u/chillig8]

r/Colorado would probably better for exposure

[u/JarlShitpost → u/chillig8]

It looks like it's r/fortcollins

[u/DsutetcipE → u/JarlShitpost]

The mods keep sending it where unpleasant truths are sent; deleting the post.

[u/Wendylovesisaac → u/chillig8]

Please do this!

[u/Lereddit117 → u/ConstructionOk6429]

Contact Fort Collins PD and ask to speak with someone. Then send a email and call your Fort Collins District Attorney's Office telling them about the situation and how traumatizing it was and how you want to press charges and are willing to testify and how you have the video evidence.

[u/tomdarch → u/Lereddit117]

Prosecutors are often politicians in waiting, using the job as a springboard to higher office. Inaction on OPs situation can become tomorrow's opposition research for whomever the prosecutor runs against for their next level up.

[u/MeanFluffyBunny → u/ConstructionOk6429]

Fort Collins PD is horrific. I had a cop follow me 4 miles home without his lights on once. I park, go to get out of my car (bc I’m home and not being pulled over) and the cop puts his hand on the pistol and orders me to stay in my seat. He then berates me for my car being too loud (it wasn’t) and says he can impound my vehicle and charge me 1.2k. WTF

[u/melikefood123 → u/MeanFluffyBunny]

I got a ticket for similar near Boulder while driving my then new 2004 STi. It was stock. Right from the factory. Then I moved to the DC area and almost failed inspection because my hood scoop was aftermarket, and illegal because it could block my view. I had to pull out my manual with a picture from the factory.

[u/Pankekifureiki → u/ConstructionOk6429]

Don’t believe the police. Lawyer up.

[u/SuperReekon → u/ConstructionOk6429]

I see two very clear cases of assault on you and you and your husband. Why are the police doing nothing? Blast this shit all over social media.

[u/Zoomwafflez → u/SuperReekon]

Because it would mean work for them, they're probably more pissed at OP for calling and making them get off their asses than they are the crazy people.

[u/DoobieWabbit → u/Zoomwafflez]

Or one of the perpetrators is a cop and they're covering

[u/Blotto_80 → u/DoobieWabbit]

Well the husband did rush in and without getting any context or de-escalating, chose violence. Seems like a cop thing to do.

[u/itsanrnotau → u/SuperReekon]

Police exist to collect revenue. No money to be made from this. They’ll do it if you make enough fuss but they’re going to take their chances on not lifting a finger

[u/DevilishlyDetermined → u/ConstructionOk6429]

Hire an attorney. They should have arrested

[u/Zoomwafflez → u/ConstructionOk6429]

Oh wow, cops being useless pieces of shit? What a shocking change of pace! oh wait... No, that's most cops 95% of the time. We're basically all on our own out there. Carry pepper spray or something.

[u/9Z7EErh9Et0y0Yjt98A4 → u/Zoomwafflez]

Yeah the incidents of police killing and brutalizing people rightly grab the most attention, but it's worth noting how incredibly lazy most cops are.

It's a culture of impunity. No consequences for doing their job poorly or not at all. Implying that a victim of a broad daylight assault is actually the one facing criminal risk is exactly the way cops make complaints go away. Asking a cop to do their job is the quickest way to earn their hostility.

ACAB

[u/TheObstruction → u/9Z7EErh9Et0y0Yjt98A4]

The number of times people have their stuff stolen and cops say "sorry, it's a civil matter, can't help you" is just fucked.

No, motherfucker, it's not a civil matter, it's fucking theft, it's a god damn felony. Get off your useless fucking ass and earn your paycheck, cop bitch.

[u/OhSweetConcord → u/Zoomwafflez]

My neighbor shot a gun through our shared wall one night. I saw it the next morning and called the cops because what the fuck, that is not cool. If I had been on the couch it would've gone straight through my head. The cops came and said they didn't have probable cause to search the neighbors apartment! The neighbors weren't even living there legally, they were squatters who hadn't signed a lease and didn't pay rent. The cops knocked on their door, asked if they knew anything about the fucking bullethole going from their apartment to mine (the angle it was at meant it definitely originated in their apartment, it didn't just pass through) which they denied, so the cops just fucking left.

That and a few other incidents I heard from friends and family when sharing the story really cemented it for me. Not only can cops be violent racist murdering assholes, even when they aren't, they do not do anything. This idea that they solve crimes or protect the public is a fiction taught to us by copoganda tv shows. Cops, as they exist today, do not add anything of value to our society. They exist to protect the property of the rich and to disrupt and dismantle any attempt to organize by the working class and that is it.

ACAB

[u/mqrdesign]

assualt assault everywhere.. these fucking idiots teaching their dumbass kids to be fckng entitled cunts.

[u/wifebert]

I hope you email this to the DA.

[u/DesastreUrbano]

What a fucktard family if that's a normal day for the kid

[u/ConstructionOk6429]

BACK STORY:

I’m trying on dresses at a clothing boutique named CIRA. I see a little boy pull back the curtains of my dressing room and I say, “hey someone’s in here don’t do that.” Karen being filmed then snaps at me, “DON’T TALK TO HIM LIKE THAT!” I told her, “ I’m just asking him not to pull back the curtains of my dressing room.” And she starts yelling at me outside my dressing room, “YOU YELLED AT HIM! HE’S ONLY 6!”

I decide to leave. I’m not mad at the kid. I’m upset with how his family started yelling at me outside my dressing room. I tell the dressing room attendant on my way out that I left all the clothes in the dressing room and that I just didn’t feel comfortable with the family in the back. I LEAVE THE STORE.

I walk out to where my family is situated. Karen follows me out of the store and just wouldn’t drop the situation. She wanted to me to go apologize to the 6 year old for “yelling at him”. I started recording after she tried lunging at me in front of my son and my husband walked over from the patio on the left (he still doesn’t know what is going on).

Recording Starts Yes, at this point I’m audibly upset. This woman has followed me out of the store, demanding I apologize to her child and even when I walked away, she continued to follow me. Now she’s trying to attack me. Her husband in the Aggies shirt was actually charging up to attack me. You can see it in the video he’s walking straight towards me and my son right behind. His eyes are locked on my direction which is why my husband got in front of me.

My husband works in the bar industry and consistently sees people get arrested for way less. Coincidentally, they happen to be POC more often than not. If the tables were turned and it were my husband who attacked this man, he would be sitting in County Jail.

[u/18bananas → u/ConstructionOk6429]

Sorry you went through this. I live in Fort Collins and hope this is made right for you. This is definitely not the kind of thing I think of when I think of Fort Collins.

I agree with other commenters that there’s a decent chance this guy has some kind of connection. Sounds like the police wanted to intimidate you into letting it go by telling you they would have arrested your husband. I think it would be worth contacting an attorney to contact the city on your behalf.

I would also send this to Jared Polis

[u/Historicmetal → u/ConstructionOk6429]

Damn what the hell. You’re right not to be mad at the 6 year old, being young means it’s an opportunity for them to learn how to behave without being arrested. If their parents won’t teach them they’ll have to learn the hard way.

[u/TheYellowRose → u/ConstructionOk6429]

Come post your story and video to /r/racism, this is so blatant. Make sure you write up everything you can remember about your interaction with the police. We can help you get it out to the media and file complaints with the police department, even though they will likely investigate themselves and find no wrong-doing. Everything public employees do is public record so you can request body camera footage, copies of the calls placed to them related to this incident, etc.

[u/MadMaid42]

„Why are you filming?“

Hmm maybe because you’re so insane nobody would believe how aggressive you are??

[u/KthProg]

It's harassment and assault, possibly battery since they both touched you aggressively. I have no idea why they wouldn't be arrested. Can't you press charges yourself as well?

[u/Kon_Soul → u/KthProg]

The Thin Blue Line Protects Its Own. In a reply she said the responding officers told her she was lucky she was recording or else her husband was going to jail.

[u/AllDougIn]

Did anyone ID these folks yet?

[u/captainrustic → u/AllDougIn]

I really hope they do get named, especially that giant pussy of a husband.

[u/ilovehamburgers → u/AllDougIn]

According to the /r/Fortcollins sub, they’ve been identified and will be receiving karma.

[u/Automatic_Truck_2699 → u/ilovehamburgers]

Where do you see that? I just checked that sub. Where did it say as of right now, they have been identified. You mean in the police report? Or that tjey posted on nextdoor?

We cant stop until there is just treatment for all and enforcement is not coming without the pressure of the public...

edit: I'm so jaded... everything with prosecution as so assymetical. It's like high school all over again, if you get beat up by a bully, maybe the bully gets a slap on the wrist, but heaven forbid you put up a fight to defend yourself, then it's equal punishment for all.

[u/Ericaonelove → u/Automatic_Truck_2699]

Commenters recognize them as neighbors to them. Nothing about cops.

[u/Jwhitx → u/Ericaonelove]

Again... Where? There's two top posts right now and I also don't see what you or that other user are talking about.

[u/Ericaonelove → u/Jwhitx]

I just went back to that thread, and I can’t find those comments. They were from neighbors that said, “we know who they are. Don’t try to seek them out.” Or something like that. I don’t know the exact words, but this was like an hour ago.

Edit, there were 2 separate comments saying they know them. They are no longer there.

[u/55Bandit]

Can't wait for the update on this because they both need to be arrested for assault.

[u/Petah_Futterman44 → u/55Bandit]

I’d love to see some r/byebyejob action.

[u/alchn → u/Petah_Futterman44]

Follow by r/thisisntwhoweare

[u/SnooGoats625 → u/55Bandit]

This needs to go to the governor's office and state police. It is an open assault. I agree it is corruption. Imagine telling the victim that? Someone has connections.

[u/YellsAboutMakingGifs → u/SnooGoats625]

The guy is prob an off duty cop. Need to bring this to governor's office, state rep, state police or the DA direct. It's assault.

[u/blazenl]

Fort Collins Colorado Contact Us page

[u/LUNA_underUrsaMajor]

Fort collins police response...

https://mobile.twitter.com/FCPolice/status/1555987062276374529

[u/jerby17]

How dare you record my husband committing a crime!

[u/Resident_Pollution_7]

He flinched pushing someone and acted like he was charging up a punch. I guarantee as soon as he get hit he folds like a bitch.

[u/InTh3s3TryingTim3s → u/Resident_Pollution_7]

Making me 99% more sure that he's a pussy ass bitch cop lol

[u/Bwallabie]

Anyone that does “6” with their pinky cant be trusted.

[u/MushroomSambaCL]

The Karen’s husband is a pussy

[u/Geminisqueeze → u/MushroomSambaCL]

The shove was sooo weak and Him loading up his arm like he was gonna punch him was cringy lmaoo

[u/smashspete]

the husband walking in there full speed like a dickhead irked me

[u/MogarRage]

Hate to say this about Colorado because I love this state and grew up here but if you are anything but white and go to a prominent white area you'll always have trouble with someone or side eyes and followed around. I like to think most ppl in Colorado are just normal fucking ppl but the entitle racists really kill it for me. That's why I stick my brown ass in the Lakewood, federal areas. Cherry creek, Fort Collins, Golden, and Boulder are places to visit but not stay a long time at because eventually someone will think you're up to something and harass you.

[u/Specialist_Pear8793]

this is terrible. also i would like to point out that as soon as karen saw u recording she stopped her husband from clocking your husband. its amazing how fast attitudes change when they are wrong and get caught by video

[u/SnooGoats625 → u/Specialist_Pear8793]

That is the only reason he stopped. He quite literally was on record.

[u/Rob_Bligidy]

That’s Old Town Fort Collins!

[u/MooseDaddyx]

Correct your children. If you don’t do the dirty work then society will do it for you in a manner much dirtier and less understanding. This was a valuable teaching moment for that little kid and it was smothered by an overprotective mother.

[u/bootsmalone]

I think the worst part of this video is at :15 when she shows the number 6 by holding up five fingers and a pinky.

[u/BobbyBudnicksDad]

Send this to Dr Rashad Richey at TYT, this is prime time content for the "I Wish a Karen Would" segment and would likely involve them being named and shamed. Hopefully some unemployment in their future.

https://www.youtube.com/c/IndisputableTYT

[u/KyleRichXV]

Lol Danesh is on the case, I look forward to the r/byebyejob update

[u/FatherCronus]

Attorney here (not in Colorado). Where the criminal system fails, civil suits can help. Talk to a local attorney, and you can try to get some form of justice that the police denied you.

[u/WhySheHateMe]

"He's six"

No Ma'm, you need to teach your kid that its not okay to invade someone's privacy. Kids can learn, being 6 is not an excuse. He's literally old enough to understand what hes doing lol