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Just doing a little cleaning up
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u/Gnarly_Sarley 11d ago
I thought it was a wind-up toy at first
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u/3-DMan 11d ago
"Hear bro, have a couple cymbals!"
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u/ihavebirb 11d ago
That monkey is Toy Story 3 scared the shit out of me
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u/Would_daver 10d ago
Fuck that monkey dude, seriously it's some Stephen King shit that does not belong in the Disney/Pixar universe.... or literally any other universe, for that matter.
In sum- fuck that monkey with the cymbals. Make it dead, with fire is a completely valid option. Account Open on Fucking Monkey with the Cymbals, John Wick style
Edit- this little chimpers is NOT the monkey with the cymbals of which I speak. No, this little chimp may be a scamp, but he/she is NOT the damn cymbals-fucker that must die....
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u/Ok-Captain-3512 10d ago
Yo where is that kid Sid?
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u/Would_daver 10d ago
Hopefully incarcerated or otherwise far from society- wait didn't they bring Sid back in a later film? It's googleable but eh...
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u/Ok-Captain-3512 10d ago
Sid in Toy Story 5
Where he goes through and collects the evil toys and takes them to toy guantanamo
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u/Crowmasterkensei 10d ago
How about our universe? It's a real toy that existed way before the movie came out.
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u/Crowmasterkensei 10d ago
That monkey toy existed way before the movie and I'm pretty sure that it's scary on purpose. The toy can snarl at you if you it it on the head.
I want one, but the original ones are unaffordable. And the newer imitations are regretably not as scary.
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u/SpoopySpydoge 10d ago
My kid would make me skip every cymbal monkey scene, you could see him get anxious af and start moving towards the remote when he knew it was coming
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u/SchnoodleDoodleDo 11d ago
’I thought it was a wind-up toy…’
i WoBbLe like a wind-up toy,
a baby chimp, so small…
but looking up - i most enjoy
the picture on the wall
cuz watching me here as i sweep
are Mighty Monkeys, see ?!
n when i lay me down to sleep,
i dream,
someday,
I’ll be…
for now, in care of human friends,
but i’ll be gone, one day
for now,
am only play
‘pretends’…
don’t take my dreams
away…
❤️
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u/CrookedLittleDogs 10d ago
Oh that tore my heart. “Don’t take my dreams away” indeed. If I had gifts, you earned them all.
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u/Moos_Mumsy 10d ago
Sorry Schooodle but he is not in the care of human "friends". That enclosure has no toys, no enrichment. Nothing but a concrete box painted to look like the home he should be in, with some wood shavings on the floor to soak up pee and poop. Poor little baby has nothing else to play with so he pushes around the sweepings.
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u/cazmantis 10d ago
I was going to say that doesn't look like a natural behaviour and that enclosure looks awful!
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u/fukitol- 10d ago
This is a 10 second clip, is there any reason to think this is the only thing the little dude has?
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u/mom0nga 10d ago
Yeah, this looks more like a zoo "night house" (an indoor area where zoo animals sleep/can shelter during bad weather) to me. If that's the case, this room would be connected to a larger, more natural outdoor area that the chimp can access when he wants to.
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u/DoggyGrin 10d ago
My local zoo has a living room for the orangutans, complete with a TV, in their private area. The big male likes to wear clothes, so he has T shirts available in their private enclosure.
Wild animal keeping has come so far in knowledge. No excuse to keep animals in a sad environment.
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u/selenamoonowl 10d ago
Watch some of the baby monkey videos on YouTube. When you investigate what's actually going on it's quite awful. There is a huge business in exploiting monkeys and their lives are really quite miserable. I would be sceptical of any video like this.
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u/selenamoonowl 10d ago
I mean, I'm not actually sure what kind of primate this is, but his environment is a little concerning.
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u/-spookygoopy- 10d ago
man, you sure know everything from a 10 second clip. maybe this is a temporary enclosure for the chimp while the caretakers clean their open enclosure. or maybe the chimp is being quarantined for a couple days, or is in this enclosure while maintenance is being done/other chimps are moved around
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u/Emma_Elise 11d ago
True, it moves with a specific rhythm that leads one to believe it is a toy until it looks at the camera's side lol.
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u/BadWolfman 10d ago
Clean up! Clean up!
Everybody everywhere
Clean up! Clean up!
Everyone must do their share
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u/BrownSugarBare 10d ago
Good lord, the Barney flash backs are real.
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u/SL1MECORE 10d ago
Singing this shit in kindergarten and my "friend" stepped on my hand really hard when I was picking up a toy, so I grabbed her foot and flipped her
Everybody do your share :-)
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u/has-some-questions 10d ago
My mom has sang this to us since we were kids. As teenagers, she found out it makes us clean faster, so she'll stop. Now we sing it to her.
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u/DNUBTFD 10d ago
Everything must be clean, very clean. That's why the dog had to die. He was a dirty dog. Dirty, dirty. Also that boy Elroy. Dirty. Dirty.
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u/enmaku 10d ago edited 10d ago
For those commenting on this little dude's enclosure, this appears to be a temporary holding pen used as short-term housing for a variety of animals. It's small and empty because it's not tailored to a single kind of animal and it's designed to be easy to clean/sterilize between uses. Most animals won't spend more than a couple hours in such an enclosure. This animal's primary enclosure is likely just being cleaned right now.
For those commenting on captivity in general, I'm not here to impose my personal morals and ethics on you, but if you do go to zoos or aquariums, try to go to AZA accredited institutions. It's not perfect, but an AZA zoo will almost always be better than some rando with some land and a bunch of tigers. Being an AZA zoo at least means you're trying.
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u/sbprasad 10d ago edited 10d ago
Why do Americans always put these little caveats like you have in your second paragraph? Where I’m from, zoos exist to educate the general public about wildlife/conservation and to undertake breeding programs that help to preserve endangered species… I would have thought civic zoos in the US are the same, right?
Edit: since an uncharitable redditor thinks I’m shitting on Americans, it was a genuine question, not a jab at the US, thanks.
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u/enmaku 10d ago edited 10d ago
Many zoos and aquariums in the U.S. are as you describe, maybe even most! There are, however, far too many institutions here that are reticent to spend more than the minimum necessary amount to keep their animals alive because they are for-profit entities and all they care about is making money. It's usually pretty easy to tell the difference once you're in the door.
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u/pm_me_dice_pics 10d ago
You just reminded me of the last time I went to York Wild Kingdom in Maine and how unhealthy and miserable all the animals looked
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u/sbprasad 10d ago
I’ve seen Tiger King etc. but I’d have thought they were the minority. Thanks for explaining!
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u/xqueenfrostine 10d ago edited 10d ago
Unaccredited zoos vastly outnumber properly accredited zoos (the AZA estimates their member institutions only account for 10% of all animal exhibitions in the US). That said, as unaccredited zoos tend to be in rural areas where the regulations are the most lax and because they’re generally not nearly as nice, these places aren’t nearly as heavily attended as the legit zoos.
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u/infectedtoe 10d ago
Nor do they have anywhere near the same amount of animals as an accredited location. Generally.
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u/xqueenfrostine 10d ago edited 10d ago
Very true! The typical smaller city AZA accredited zoo has a thousand animals at least. That’s not the kind of operation a dodgy unlicensed zoo has the funds to support. That said the zoo Joe Exotic ran had 700 animals, almost as many as a proper small city zoo.
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u/yosukeandyubestship 10d ago
Not necessarily true. Some are larger and unaccredited, and some are small and accredited (my local Madison Henry Vilas Zoo for example)
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u/ModsBannedMyMainAcct 10d ago edited 10d ago •
1) Many zoos, including the “good” ones, provide animals with much less space than they’d realistically need. Animals acting unnaturally frantic isn’t an uncommon sight at a zoo. In fact, many animals are medicated with antidepressants, tranquilizers, and even anti-psychotic medications because of the extreme stress of their environment
2) One argument is that zoos donate to conservation efforts. Sometimes they do, but it is usually a small fraction of your entry fee. Your money would go a lot farther donating directly to a conservation effort that is not placing animals in an enclosure as a spectacle
3) “Going to the zoo raises awareness that a conservation program wouldn’t be able to achieve, right?” Not necessarily. People generally care deeply about whale conservation, but you can’t find whales in a zoo.
4) A misconception is that zoos bring in animals to rehab them before release back into the wild. This is not often the case. Many animals in zoos have never been in the wild, and will never be. In some cases (though certainly not all), animals are actually taken from the wild to populate the enclosures. This likely isn’t the case with the more reputable zoos, but is something to be aware of.
Animals aren’t ours to put in cages and gawk at. I’d urge everyone to take the money you were going to use on a zoo ticket and donate it to a better cause, like conservation. If you’d still like to interact with animals, see if there are any sanctuaries near you. These places normally have the animals’ best interests in mind, and provide them with a much more ethical life.
Edit: sorry - I meant to reply the the parent comment of the one I did reply to
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u/Zac3d 10d ago
In some cases (though certainly not all), animals are actually taken from the wild to populate the enclosures.
I checked about several large city zoos in the US, and they all had a policy of no wild animals unless being rehabilitated or not suited for release back into the wild. Most animals come from breeding programs with other zoos.
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u/Account283746 10d ago
4) A misconception is that zoos bring in animals to rehab them before release back into the wild. This is not often the case. Many animals in zoos have never been in the wild, and will never be. In some cases (though certainly not all), animals are actually taken from the wild to populate the enclosures. This likely isn’t the case with the more reputable zoos, but is something to be aware of.
As you allude to, there's a lot of zoo and aquarium breeding programs for species that aren't of concern with regard to conservation of education. In fact, there's a whole market of trading "surplus animals" within the AZA. Here's a very recent publication from the AZA that mentions that Animal Exchange program that they've fully put behind their website's membership paywall.
This program exists because it's illegal in the US to buy and sell most or all animals held by zoos and aquaria. This gives a way for zoos to get around that law. There's some merits to this program - like swapping individuals of the same species to increase genetic diversity (and thus offspring health). But there's also cases where surplus animals are intentionally bred in or to have some sort of trade chip for acquiring new animals.
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u/throwaway33704 10d ago
Animals acting unnaturally frantic isn’t an uncommon sight at a zoo
I went to Busch Gardens in Tampa recently and the hyena they had there clearly had something really wrong. It had its nose up to the glass and was making big clockwise circles on it over and over without stopping. Was doing it when we walked up and again 10 minutes later when we walked past again.
I don't understand putting animals, especially skittish animals like cheetahs, so close to loud roller coasters that run all day. It was really sad and I'm definitely not going to go back... I didn't realize they were owned by the same group that owns SeaWorld until I was there but I'm not surprised.
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u/BoomZhakaLaka 10d ago
We have a problem with "collectors" in the US, if you catch my drift. They often run businesses that market their ranch as a zoo, because that's legal in some places, and trade the young on black markets, which usually isn't legal.
We even have reality TV about it. That probably didn't help.
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u/Cappa_01 10d ago
No, in the US you can own a lot of exotic species and start "private zoos". It's state by state that decides which animal is legal to own or not
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u/msluluqueen 10d ago
I lived in Jacksonville, IL for a few months and will never forget the time I saw a lady with a baby baboon on a leash in the parking lot of a local strip shopping center.
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u/Maxusam 10d ago edited 10d ago
I think the different laws in America v Europe are so vastly different that you can’t really compare the two. Like all of the owners in tiger king would never be able to do what they do in the US if they were in the UK. We don’t really have private for profit and exploitation zoos here (UK). At least I don’t think we do :/
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u/sbprasad 10d ago
Well, speaking of the UK I’ve got a question for you as I live in the UK but am not from here originally. There are quite a few country houses like Woburn that have zoos – a particular episode of Top Gear where the boys drive a convertible made out of a Renault Espace through a lion exhibit comes to mind – are these places regulated or do the toffs just do as they please? I’ve been meaning to visit one of these places but only if they’re not horrible.
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u/FUCK_MAGIC 10d ago
Woburn and Longleat are both really good at conservation, taking care of the animals seems to be the priority.
They are technically Safari parks not zoos because the grounds/enclosures are pretty huge so you have to drive through them.
I've been to Longleat several times and would definitely recommend it. There was also a long-running docuseries on TV that gave some good insights into how it's run.
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u/HalensVan 10d ago
I use to work for the Omaha Henry Doorly Zoo. One of the best Zoos here in the US. And that is most of what they do. They also had classes at the zoo for children. So it ran as a non for profit education facility.
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u/dapobbat 10d ago
Where ever you are from, typically how many acres of enclosure are given to a lion, for example? Whatever your answer is, that's not enough compared to a lion living in the wild.
That's what people mean by any zoo is an unnatural setting for animals.
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u/Lambchoptopus 10d ago
North Carolina Zoo is a wildlife conservation and rehab zoo owned by the state and one of the largest Zoo's on the world. I go every so often and feed the giraffes. South Carolina Aquarium is a rehab center for wildlife and they have a sea turtle clinic in it. Idk where other people love but I have only experienced conservation and rehab zoos and aquariums. Not roadside attraction "sanctuaries" that I wouldn't call a zoo at all to begin with.
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u/Much-Wall7931 10d ago
You can just open your own zoo in the US? What?
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u/enmaku 10d ago
It depends where you live. One of the super fun things about living in the US is that you have at least 3 different sets of laws that affect you. In this case there are very few federal laws, some states care more than others, some counties care more than others, and some cities care more than others.
Find the right patch of land where every jurisdiction you fall under doesn't give a shit and yeah, you can just open your own zoo here.
Even the stricter places are pretty lenient on what you're allowed to own, though.
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u/royal_bambi 11d ago
Cutest roomba ever!
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u/Azura_BlackHeart 11d ago
I saw someone call him haroomba and it made my day 😄
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u/PhromDaPharcyde 11d ago
broomsticks out for haroomba
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u/enonymous715 10d ago
HAROOMBA
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u/Kind_Inside_3751 10d ago
Ok, ok. We messed up with the last one. Let’s protect this one a little more.
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u/kawika69 10d ago
Sure, this Roomba looks like it works well. But before you know it, it'll start flinging poop everywhere.
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u/Picture-unrelated 10d ago
Why do people think torturing an intelligent creature by keeping it in solitary confinement until it has a mental break is cute
This subreddit is so fucking weird sometimes
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u/TheRealWookyMonster 10d ago
People here acting like kids on Christmas have never played with a huge box instead of all the toys they just got.... This little guy found something silly to entertain itself and people are jumping to the dumbest conclusions based on a 10 second clip.
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u/Buchly_art 11d ago
It breaks my heart to see this cutie in captivity,it should play in the rain forest and have its family around.
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u/sam_hammich 11d ago •
Very often sapient animals are kept at sanctuaries because they cannot live in the wild, are being rehabilitated, or were orphaned. Most animals have no reservations about killing offspring that are not theirs (sometimes even their own offspring). Also, plain enclosures like this are usually used as a temporary space to keep animals while their primary space is being cleaned.
Basically, we have no context for this video, and we don't even know if this baby has a family, so we shouldn't be quick to judge.
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u/Thendofreason 10d ago
I JUDGE THAT APE TO BE GUILTY! I sentence him to be looped in a gif so I can watch him waddle a few more times.
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u/luckyfucker13 11d ago
How dare you not allow Reddit to rage over animal photos and video without a single shred of context!
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u/Profoundsoup 10d ago
I swear, its insane how much people infer about a single 30 second clip or photo like some of yall could actually be top CIA officials
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u/sam_hammich 10d ago
For real. People seem so keen on reading into his fidgeting behavior and inventing all kinds of narratives around it, while ignoring the fact that him turning toward the door several times can also suggest that he's expecting someone to come through the door. Meaning he was placed there temporarily, and someone will be back to collect him.
Regardless, it's all speculation, even my own. None of it is worth anything without context.
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u/Mikki102 10d ago
I'm just here to point out, this chimp is rocking, not fidgeting or doing something within the range of natural chimp behavior. Rocking is a known stereotypy in chimps. Usually developed when a chimpanzee mother is absent, either because she refused to raise her offspring or she is dead. It is thought that rocking provides the stimulation a young chimp would naturally get from riding its mother through the forest.
I can almost guarantee that wherever this young chimp is, that facility would not want this video posted. They are not necessarily at fault for the rocking, life happens and sometimes the chimp mom is not available. Captivity is stressful for chimps. This could be a sanctuary for all I know. But I feel it is inappropriate for these videos to be viewed through a lens of "so cute, he's playing" because it isn't.
Also it doesn't simply cease as the chimp grows up or is put in a better situation, I work with many adult individuals who still rock when overstimulated/during times of social excitement, it becomes a self soothing coping skill. We can't stop them, but we do try to minimize it as much as possible. I would suspect this chimp is anticipating something like food, a groupmate being added, or moving to another area.
Chimps are wonderful, intelligent, unpredictable animals. If you want to learn more about chimps, the book "Next of Kin" follows Washoe a chimp who learned sign language through various places she lives and gives a good overview of the plight of chimps in labs and in captivity in general. Jane Goodall's books are also very approachable.
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u/LunamiLu 10d ago
Why do you try to minimize rocking if it soothes them? I’m autistic and rocking does the same for me, when I’m forced to not do it because I’m in public or something, it just adds to the stress and builds up. Is it detrimental for them to do it once they do use it as a way to soothe themselves?
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u/Mikki102 10d ago
For most chimps it's not harmful, but for some it can cause them to lose hair or get callouses or sores on their backs and butts. Or some will rock so hard they bang themselves hard enough to hurt, especially their heads. That's pretty rare for it to create physical problems. But generally we consider it a problem if it reaches an intensity large enough that we can hear the noise they are making with their body hitting a surface.
The overall idea is that certain situations cause them to feel the need to self soothe in a way that is not normal for chimpanzees. Sometimes rocking is a sign a situation is stressful, sometimes the group is just very excited about food or something. Versus rocking is normal for you, it's part of your "normal behavioral repertoire". If you were a chimp we would probably not attempt to intervene unless you developed physical problems, other than ensuring you have lots of options to fulfill that need and things to do other than rock. We don't fuss at them for it or anything like that. We mostly just try to limit the scenarios that trigger it. For example I know a chimp who becomes very stressed and rocks when strangers are present. So we try to introduce new people slowly and calmly, and interact with him by playing throughout the morning to keep him in a "good mood." In this little chimps case, I really wonder why he is alone. We pretty much never have chimps alone unless they purposefully choose to be alone for a short period or need to be isolated for significant medical reasons. It stresses them out. I would suggest getting one of his friends in there with him or providing enrichment to occupy his mind.
There are a selection of abnormal behaviors chimps can have that we monitor and try to minimize where possible because the overall goal is for them to behave as close to wild chimps as possible, since that is a sign of the best mental health. Some of these behaviors are harmful, like skin picking, and we intervene very quickly with those providing enrichment, forage items, etc. Others like rocking are not generally harmful but not ideal and some chimps have very specific triggers that can simply be avoided, or a chimp can be interacted with to "snap out of it." It all depends on the individual chimp, and we try to tailor our approach to them.
I love talking about chimps, I'm obsessed if you couldn't tell!
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u/StaredAtEclipseAMA 11d ago edited 11d ago •
Redditors: “It is so cruel to keep animals in captivity! I wish it was free to live a happy life in the wild!” (Look at me, I’m so virtuous!)
The wild (in reality): predators, starvation, dehydration
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u/freekoout 10d ago
Uneducated commenters bashing on animals in captivity always remind me of that TikTok of the girls buying goldfish and releasing them into the ocean because they "should be free". Freshwater fish... In the ocean.
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u/njoshua326 10d ago
Goldfish decimate ecosystems in lakes they are 'freed' in, they don't even end up gold after a few generations because it turns out being shiny is detrimental for survival too.
Basically just don't buy animals if you don't support it, don't try and be a saviour.
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u/persianbrothel 10d ago edited 10d ago
u/Buchly_art 's comment still stands regardless of what the context is...
even if people found it completely lost and helpless due to completely natural circumstances... that's still really fucking sad
it doesn't have to be a human-made tragedy to be sad
whatever the context: right now little buddy doesn't have his family around; he's not playing in the rain forest with his brothers and sisters... it's sad
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u/davdev 10d ago
I fully support a lot of the work zoos do both in rehabilitation of animals and in public education of the needs to their wild cousins. I just hope this isn’t this guys full time enclosure. It’s perfectly possible to create enriching environments that mirror their natural habitats, concrete floors and walls don’t do that. But if it’s just a small temporary enclosure or something it’s fine.
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u/CopprRegendt 10d ago edited 10d ago
I'm sure he's got a big play yard outside with stuff to swing on. Maybe it's just raining, or this is where they feed him. I just visited the San Francisco zoo, the cement rooms were only for feeding and to take a rest from the crowds, and the apes could come and go as they pleased
I came late in the day to see the orangutans and they took one look at me and took the kids inside! I think they had had enough of the humans for today. Lol I was sad but that's how the enclosure was designed - nobody had to be on desplay if they didn't want to be.
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u/Eleaine 11d ago
play in the rain forest
I’m sorry but this is a prettty naive take.
I’m not saying zoos are all good. But it’s a give and take, definitely not all bad.
This animal, in reality, in the wild would be at the mercy of the elements, constantly hiding from predators, it’s parents (if it has any) would constantly be doing the same while trying to feed themselves and their young
Sure, it may be bored and have little mental stimulation. This is certainly not a negligible downside. But it will also never face hunger, fear of predators or suffer the natural elements, which is honestly better than 99% of wild animals.
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u/LordThunderDumper 11d ago
Imagine being stuck in a concrete box all day, you would push sawdust around like a crazy person too.
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u/Chefitutide 10d ago
That clip does not show the full enclosure. The main habitat was being cleaned. It was with its mother, and there were several other toys. The very next video shows him playing with a set of balls.
The zoo has already responded on the tictok.
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u/20rakah 11d ago
Imagine being stuck in a concrete box all day
with a desk and a computer?
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u/jl_theprofessor 11d ago
Reddit having its normal freak out about an animal from ten seconds of video. Still waiting on someone to claim “they’re just like us.”
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u/kirk27 11d ago edited 11d ago
I don’t know the back story or what zoo this is but this makes me sad. I want that little buddy out swinging from tree to tree not pushing sticks around..
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u/facepalm_1290 11d ago
These spaces are usually temporary or for quarantine when they are sick. Atleast in any decent Zoo this wouldn't be his only space.
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u/Chefitutide 10d ago
That clip does not show the full enclosure. The main habitat was being cleaned. It was with its mother, and there were several other toys. The very next video shows him playing with a set of balls.
The zoo has already responded on the tictok.
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u/ProdesseQuamConspici 10d ago
Maybe he knows how many "Chugga Chuggas" there are before the "Choo Choo"!
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u/tempbunny123 11d ago
I love him so much.