r/phoenix 🤡 Sep 27 '22 Take My Energy 1

Maricopa County Attorney says she won’t prosecute women who seek abortion Politics

https://www.azfamily.com/2022/09/27/maricopa-county-attorney-says-she-wont-prosecute-women-who-seek-abortion/
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u/Laurgrimar Sep 27 '22

"She, however, didn’t answer if she would prosecute cases against doctors as the law would dictate. Under the new law, abortion providers would face two to five years in prison."

Problematic...

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u/keepinitbeefy Sep 27 '22

Yeah that seems to be the big issue is no doctor will take the risk if there is a chance of being prosecuted.

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u/--redacted-- Phoenix Sep 27 '22

I've been wondering, if the mother's life is at risk wouldn't the doctor be violating their Hippocratic oath by refusing an abortion?

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u/aero25 Sep 27 '22

Yes, however the effect is that the Drs are out in an impossible situation. Legally, they need to wait for the woman to be sick enough to act, but not sick enough where harm will be caused. Then, it all will be sorted out by lawyers and courts who will decide if the Dr made the correct choices. It is often the case that the line of being sick enough vs not too sick is crossed very quickly and not without peril to the woman and/or unborn.

Edit: also pretty sure the oath is not law binding anywhere, from what some googling leads me to believe.

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u/--redacted-- Phoenix Sep 27 '22

That's a really shitty situation for them to be thrust into, and I'm certain that's by design.

As to the edit I was finding pretty much the same thing, but I feel like an oath sworn by a person is more binding than a law imposed on them. That being said I've only sworn one oath in my life and it wasn't Hippocratic.

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u/aero25 Sep 27 '22

It really is a horrible situation. Probably one part design on whomever drafted the bills, one part cluelessness on the legislature that was bought and paid for to push through those laws now, like in some other States.

I saw a really interesting perspective from historian Heather Cox Richardson on the context of the AZ law from the Civil War Era that was just reinstated.

Here's an NPR story out of Texas that describes what happened to this couple when things went wrong in their pregnancy. Listen to the audio of the interview, it's powerful stuff.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/07/26/1111280165/because-of-texas-abortion-law-her-wanted-pregnancy-became-a-medical-nightmare

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u/aero25 Sep 27 '22

Found the article about our AZ law that is back in effect. The historical perspective is that the law was more about controlling the men of the territory, who were acting lawlessly. Also of note, the set of laws that set up the territory were drafted by one person. It's an interesting read!

https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/september-24-2022

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u/--redacted-- Phoenix Sep 27 '22

Very interesting, especially

In that context, the context of punishing those who secretly administer poison to kill someone, it says that anyone who uses poison or instruments “with the intention to procure the miscarriage of any woman then being with child” would face two to five years in jail, “Provided, that no physician shall be affected by the last clause of this section, who in the discharge of his professional duties deems it necessary to produce the miscarriage of any woman in order to save her life.”

Emphasis mine, but that seems very cut and dried. Up to the doctors professional opinion, not the legislature.

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u/TheDaug North Phoenix Sep 28 '22

The theater, the theater. What's happened to the theater?

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u/hugesavings Sep 27 '22

Not defending the bill, but iirc those are exempt

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u/--redacted-- Phoenix Sep 27 '22

Yep, appears that's correct:

Pima County Superior Court Judge Kellie Johnson’s ruling lifted a 50-year-old injunction blocking enforcement of the 1864 law, which allows abortion only when the mother’s life is in danger.

I'm just wondering how that argument would shake out in places where that exemption wasn't in place.

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u/hugesavings Sep 27 '22

Definitely a bad spot to be in, this is why we need to take bad legislation out instead of letting it fall into “seldom enforced but still statutory” zone.

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u/--redacted-- Phoenix Sep 27 '22

Agreed 100%

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u/BisexualCactusNoises Sep 28 '22

Hippocratic oath is a formality that isn't done by every doctor. Only a fraction of them actually do it.

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u/bolerofire2000 Sep 28 '22

Yes, I too am concerned about the less than 1% of women who abort due to a health reason. I'm not at all concerned about the 99%+ who abort out of convenience.

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u/Courage-Rude Sep 28 '22

Because it inconveniences you right?

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u/bb_nuggetz Sep 29 '22

Your comment screams “The only reason I’m here is because I want to pick a fight and piss people off because everyone should be as unhappy as me!!”

You must be a male. Id imagine if men were the ones who had to carry a baby to full-term for 9 months and everything that comes along with that, abortion would have never even become a political issue.

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u/byebyemayos Oct 11 '22

Hippocratic oath isn't at all binding...it's an oath

And technically, the original oath says not to induce abortion. It's an outdated tradition, no utility in it

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u/DocFitzgerald70 Sep 27 '22

That’s why she said that, so she doesn’t look like the bad guy. It’s a pass the blame type of way with people.

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u/halavais Sep 28 '22

*fewer doctors.

Certainly some will follow the law. Others will try to follow their ethical obligation, as they see it.

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u/Love2Pug Sep 28 '22

Even if they don't fear criminal prosecution, a complaint to the medical board is all it would take for their license to be suspended ( revoked? )

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u/udderchaos69 South Phoenix Sep 27 '22

I'm really, really against the idea of electing someone to a job that's all about upholding the law based on a promise to not uphold the law... but, I'm also really, really against the idea of electing someone who would prosecute abortions... I fucking hate politics and the sliminess of it all.

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u/Laurgrimar Sep 27 '22

I really dislike the lack of transparency. Just SAY you're going to uphold the law as written. Don't create ambiguity.

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u/Hypogi Sep 27 '22

Deciding which cases to pursue or not is what County prosecutors do. It’s part of the job they do every day.

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u/halavais Sep 28 '22 edited Sep 28 '22

And I really hope we see jury nullifications if such prosecutions do occur. Nullification has a long and patriotic history.

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u/udderchaos69 South Phoenix Sep 28 '22

I'd imagine you're correct and we will.

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u/chlorenchyma Sep 28 '22

Just like soldiers shouldn't blindly follow orders if they are unjust, county prosecutors shouldn't just blindly prosecute every person for every stupid thing.

We shouldn't even be prosecuting the majority of crimes. So much of this shit would go away with housing first policies and guarantees to food, water, bathrooms, and medical care.

Edit: With the exception of violent crime, prosecution is often more likely to hurt than to help.

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u/AFew10_9TooMany Sep 28 '22

The headline is also patently untrue and misleading…

What she actually said:

“If” the legislature “or” courts have not provided further guidance when they finally get a prosecution referral, “then” they won’t prosecute “without first seeking further guidance”…

Her actual statement means NOTHING …

Just a disingenuous attempt to peel off votes.

Remember this is the same person who helped get Kavanaugh confirmed.

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u/Emergency-Class-7555 Sep 28 '22

Definitely problematic. Definitely worth getting the az Supreme Court involved. Or better the AZ congress involved. That sets the tone for Court. Not sure either way. But we have to show people to be people and do their own damn thing. What ever it is....end rant...

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u/blazze_eternal Sep 27 '22

True, but at least her statement reinforces they won't try and go after interstate travelers unlike some other states.

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u/Laurgrimar Sep 27 '22

Her statement had nothing to do with Arizona law. It's essentially just saying that under the current law in AZ, she will not be prosecuting women attempting to get abortion care outside of AZ. If the law changes and becomes more restrictive and punitive, chances are, she'll enforce that law.

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u/Multi_21_Seb_RBR Sep 27 '22

Coincidentally (more like by design), nothing about doctors and providers.

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u/saxyroro Glendale Sep 28 '22

I don't believe her. And definitely voting for Julie Gunnigle.

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u/Wretschko Peoria Sep 27 '22

That was a real quick 180. She must have gotten the latest poll results.

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u/Multi_21_Seb_RBR Sep 27 '22

It still doesn't say anything how she (or any prosecutor) would prosecute doctors/providers, so in effect nothing has changed since Friday and the full-ban from 1864/1901 will be in effect because no doctor/provider will want to risk their license in a state with such unclear enforcement but rules that say doctors/providers can get 2-5 years.

The only thing that would force Republicans hand to change and overturn the 1864/1901 law is if polling keeps tanking over the next few weeks and Ducey has to call a special session to work with the 28 Democrats in the House + 3 Republicans and 14 Democrats in the Senate + 2 Republicans to overturn it, but he won't since he's not sincere about being a "moderate" on abortion given he willingly signed a law in the 15-week ban that explicitly said that the 1864/1901 law wouldn't be moderated.

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u/LiteralHiggs Phoenix Sep 28 '22

Fastest flip flop in the West.

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u/SuperGenius98K Sep 27 '22

Never trust a Republican. They say one thing and do another.

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u/VanitasTheUnversed Sep 28 '22

Rachel doesn't seem like a bad person. Like the McCain's. The McCain's have The McCain Institute and they help combat human trafficking.

Rachel is way better than Allister. Allister was a cunt.

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u/majorflojo Sep 28 '22

She's going to go after abortion providers.

She' pretending to be moderate.

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u/Madhouse221 Sep 27 '22

Yeah this is a lie

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u/Newhollow Sep 28 '22

They will not at first. Need actual cases to enforce legal precedent. After that they can set up a network to control women back to their "Christian" views.

No lie, if they change the law before it can be reversed the have lost.

Ever since America has learned to grow with civil and human rights it always was a losing battle legally.

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u/scooterv1868 Sep 27 '22

Chasing votes.

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u/Over_It_Mom Sep 27 '22

She literally already said she would persecute abortion cases and now flip flops like a true Republican. If they weren't lying they wouldn't be conservative.

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u/BplusHuman Sep 27 '22

I believe her predecessor got locked up for human trafficking and selling babies (not absolutely positive, but 75% sure). That said, yeah I'd understand laying low on controversial moves in the office. Voters have a short memory, but that's not true of lawsuits.

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u/Mister_E_Phister Sep 27 '22

No, her predecessor was the alcoholic that overcharged protestors as gang members.

The human trafficker was the county assessor.

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u/BplusHuman Sep 27 '22

Oh yeah... Didn't that lady die? Or did I confuse that one too?

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u/Mister_E_Phister Sep 27 '22

Yea, she passed away shortly after finally resigning.

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u/Wretschko Peoria Sep 27 '22

Allister Adel.

She was even hospitalized on the night of her election victory for bleeding in the brain. Turns out she was a hardcore alcoholic who reportedly drunkenly fell down many times, suffering head injuries. She tried to conceal going to rehab in California and, when found out, she absurdly claimed she was able to effectively work remotely full-time while going to rehab at the same time.

It was reported that even after rehab, Adel kept drinking, falling down, passing out and would make drunken disturbing rambling calls to staff. It got so bad, nearly every one of her lead prosecutors signed a letter asking her to resign.

At first, she refused but later agreed to resign after it was discovered that prosecutors, who she was supposed to be supervising, had botched nearly 200 misdemeanor cases due to the statute of limitations running out.

After her final day, she went straight to the hospital. A month later, she was dead at the age of 45, due to "health complications." No other explanation has been given.

She left behind a husband and two boys.

I greatly disliked her politics but, damn, that was tragic.

Alcoholism sucks.

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u/BplusHuman Sep 27 '22

I've worked in behavioral health for a lot of years. A few years of my career i was working in detox/Rehab. There's a lot of overlap in the Venn Diagram of "passionate about politics" and poorly managed mental health. I really think a lot of hardcore partisans overlook and encourage the behavior because addressing it in others won't help them personally.

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u/Dependent-Juice5361 Sep 28 '22

Its a sad story all around regardless of politics

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u/BplusHuman Sep 27 '22

Arizona really doesn't get a lot of press for how gross their public figures are. I feel like the news cycle was lightning fast on the Birdwell indictments. That's just a lot of nasty stuff that get glossed over.

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u/Hypogi Sep 27 '22

You’re thinking of Paul Peterson the County Assessor.

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u/Anxious_Strain_626 Sep 27 '22

Lol she flip floped like a fish out of water

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u/CodeApostle Sep 28 '22

I rly don't see the point of prosecuting women who seek abortion

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u/hjablowme919 Sep 28 '22

How long before DeSantis replaces her?

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u/phazfun Sep 29 '22

Mighty human of her, she also won't prosecute those who committed/commit treason or violate the constitution after taking an oath to uphold such document.

She also won't address the loud mufflers, car stereos that make other cars vibrate around it, parties from 2pm till 4am+ with concert speakers outside in residential neighborhoods violating disturbing the peace laws without a block party permit, dogs barking all afternoon/night/morning long in 105°+ heat, etc...

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u/Morphlux Sep 27 '22

So I read this as “business as usual” by her? Got it….

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u/politicsofexperience Sep 27 '22

prosecutorial discretion is the root of all evil. even when it's a topic I support, it is not the way to do things.

the powerful guide society through their pretzel logic all the time.

not only are the rules not evenly applied, the masters have no mandate to educate the weak of their nuance

I cant imagine the kind of shower you would need after becoming a lawyer, but I am sure their isn't enough freshwater in the world for the amount of injustice that occurs everyday in their system

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u/Proper_Mulberry_2025 Sep 27 '22

Keep voting Republican, Arizona. Republicans are great at voting against a woman’s right to choose, against universal healthcare, against funding the schools. Watching your country go down the toilet is worth it, just so we can own the libs. Irony is that the people that are Trumpers and anti-abortion are the least fuckable people in the world.

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u/SuperSkyDude Ahwatukee Sep 28 '22

I believe our schools still receive funding, but probably not as much as other places. I went to school in the Seattle area and the schools I send my kids to down here is far better than I experienced. Also, the county is much better run and managed than King County or the county I work in (LA). We have crazy politicians down here, but we don't have a monopoly on them.

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u/halavais Sep 28 '22

Per student funding is among the lowest I the country. Substantially less than Washington, and a third that of New York. I think we still haven't dropped below Mississippi, but given that we have dropped from around average to the bottom, just give ot a few more years. (Even assuming Hobbs is at the helm, the legislature is frozen on this.)

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u/SuperSkyDude Ahwatukee Sep 28 '22

I'm more concerned with academic performance, and that's not strongly correlated to school funding. Especially when so much funding goes to administration items .

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u/halavais Sep 28 '22

You should be. Ideology notwithstanding, there is an empirical link between funding and outcomes.

Charters in Arizona spend significantly more than regular public schools on administration (a difference, on average, of more that $1000 moves from the classroom to the administration among charters), but even with this, the percentage of the total per-student budget spent on admin is not especially high in AZ.

Basically, if we returned funding to the levels of 2004, we would have far better high school grads. Because in my experience, our grads are poorly prepared when compared with those from, say, California or Washington, and thatvis part of the reason so few of our kids end up getting college degrees, or being competitive nationally.

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u/SuperSkyDude Ahwatukee Sep 28 '22

Anecdotally, as someone who went to school in WA the educational experience in AZ is far, far better if you go to the appropriate school. Granted, that does require parental involvement and motivation. I also have real good friends who work as administrators in CA school districts who make money hand over fist. But their districts fail at academics, and they seem to be more concerned with their "distance work" opposed to education. So having real world experience in all three states is where I will base my opinion.

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u/halavais Sep 28 '22

I mean, "the appropriate school" is key there. The best school in AZ is better than the worst school in every other state.

I have taught or gone to school in all three states you mentioned (AZ, WA, CA) as well as in OR, CO, NJ, and Japan. In AZ I went to private, public, and parochial at various times. Obviously it differs from school to school. If you go to Newport in Bellevue (where I used to work) or to La Jolla High (where my sibs all went) you are going to get an education absolutely unmatched at any HS in Arizona, including the privates. Why? Because local neighborhoods still have a huge impact on school resources.

I am glad you are happy with your local school--I truly am. Generally speaking, I am not disappointed with my kids' current school either. It isn't going to stack up to any of the schools I went to--including the schools I went to here in AZ back when we were ranked in the top 25 and not the bottom 2--but thanks to good support in donations this school is doing OK.

The problem is that I care about more than just my kids. I have this crazy idea that we should provide an excellent education to all the kids in AZ. And sure, we aren't going to get to the levels found in public schools in places like New York, Massachusetts, or Virginia, but collectively our kids deserve better than the worst couple of states in the US.

If it is just a matter of me and mine, we will be fine. The question is whether we want our kids to be surrounded by illiterate fools if they decide to stay in AZ, or if we will continue to rely on immigrants from other states to fill our best jobs.

I would be happy if we could catch up to our funding levels in 2004, nearly two decades ago. Back when AZ had average schools. Heck, I would settle for having a better ranking on per student payments than per prisoner payments, where AZ spends more than 17 other states. Investing in the future of our citizens is never a bad choice for any state.

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u/Proper_Mulberry_2025 Sep 28 '22

You have no skin in the game. I’d listen to you if you worked for Maricopa County because it would be a different conversation.

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u/SuperSkyDude Ahwatukee Sep 28 '22

No skin in the game? I have kids in schools here and you stated that Arizona Republicans are against funding schools. I feel like I have a bit of skin in it.

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u/Proper_Mulberry_2025 Sep 28 '22

Congrats for gaming the system. Perhaps they should have a residency requirement? That’d make this game more interesting. Rue the state you live in, collect that salary and live in another state. Lolol. I knew a firefighter that did that. You win!

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u/SuperSkyDude Ahwatukee Sep 28 '22

You must have misunderstood what I said. I'm from Seattle, work in LA and have lived in Arizona for 28 years now.

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u/russ_digg Sep 28 '22

Must be nice to pick and choose which laws to enforce. That's not how it should work, regardless of the issue at hand. All or none.

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u/ChanceHunter8025 Sep 28 '22

Abortion is absolute good and I only will support politicians that support it.

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u/Shaz-bot Sep 27 '22

I love how prosecutors can just decide not to enforce the law.

That is working super well for NYC, LA, San Fran, San Diego, Chicago, Philadelphia, Detroit, New Orleans, and the list goes on.

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u/BreeCherie Sep 27 '22

All these cities have an over-prosecution problem so don't know what point you are making

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u/Shaz-bot Sep 28 '22

Yeah man that's what making just about every major city in America worse. Over prosecution.

We need more arrests not less.

Follow the Japanese method. Have nice clean cities because you don't fuck around.

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u/COPE_V2 Sep 28 '22

I’m thankful people like you tend to stay behind a keyboard and not pursue opportunities at a government level

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u/5tatic55 Sep 28 '22

Side note: how do you know they’re not

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u/BreeCherie Sep 28 '22

I'm...not even going to get into all that. Something tells me you aren't here to have a conversation in good faith.

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u/Shaz-bot Sep 28 '22

"good faith" means repeat things every HR manager and School teacher says and hope they're true rather than admitting the truth that there are major issues we can't actually discuss.

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u/fithworldruler Sep 28 '22

The Japanese method where High School graduation rates sit at 96.7 percent to AZ at 77.8? Clean cities because they don't fuck around with the public education system.

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u/Shaz-bot Sep 28 '22

Yeah it's "high school graduation" that makes people loot stores and commit crimes.

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u/FoxFireUnlimited Sep 28 '22

The Japanese have an Accusitorial justice system whereas the US has an Adversarial.

The police in Japan basically torture people and keep them awake for four or more days until they get a confession and a confession is 100% binding and can't be recanted.

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u/Laurgrimar Sep 27 '22

She's not not enforcing the law. Did you read the article?

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u/Unreasonably-Clutch Sep 27 '22

I'm prochoice but I don't agree with any AG refusing to enforce laws. It is up to the legislature to pass legislation, not the AG.

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u/Morphlux Sep 27 '22

Absolutely not. This is how monstrosities have occurred in the past.

You can tell right and wrong as a decent human. And she can fully choose not to do something like prosecute a doctor.

Are you ok with the countless laws in history that weren’t just bad but killed people, violated basic human rights, enslaved people, and more?

Just because it’s your job doesn’t make it right…

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u/Unreasonably-Clutch Sep 28 '22

She can fully choose to resign and lobby the legislature to change the law. It is not her job to nullify duly enacted laws.

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u/Hypogi Sep 27 '22

Prosecutors decide which cases to pursue every day. It’s part of their job.

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u/RocinanteCoffee Sep 29 '22

Yeah much better to spend court time and taxpayer money finding rapists and murderers than prosecuting a lady who had a miscarriage and a crazy ex who accuses her falsely of abortion.

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u/Unreasonably-Clutch Sep 28 '22

Based on whether there is sufficient evidence to likely convict. Not blanket decisions to refuse to enforce duly enacted laws.

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u/Ramza_Claus Sep 28 '22

Yeah, I'm not sure why people are downvoting this.

Remember that county clerk who refused to approve gay marriage even though it was legal because she had a personal opposition to it?

I don't see how this is different. Someone explain why this is different

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u/FoxFireUnlimited Sep 28 '22

Because it works in their favor, this time.

Politics is entirely tribal and, as Marx said, there are no bad tactics...just bad targets.

It's rare that people actually want to be consistent in any belief, let alone politics.

The same people that were speaking up on behalf of that country clerk will condemn this attorney...it really does go both ways.

Good on you for being one of the consistent ones.

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u/ragonxdragon Sep 27 '22

And it’s up to the executive branch to enforce laws but they technically don’t have to enforce them

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u/Birthday-Tricky Sep 27 '22

Prosecutors do have discretion if they feel the prosecution will not be successful and I may be wrong on this part, if the public interest is not served. I will check that last one. I heard it somewhere, filed it away.

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u/Unreasonably-Clutch Sep 28 '22

The public interest served, as determined by the legislature, is protecting life. I do not agree with that policy decision, but it is the legislature which determines policy, not the AG.

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u/Birthday-Tricky Sep 28 '22

https://www.findlaw.com/criminal/criminal-procedure/what-is-prosecutorial-discretion-.html

I was wrong on the second part.
I too am pro-choice. I would hope that the AG uses their discretion to not go after every miscarriage or medically necessary abortion that is alleged to be "murder by abortion".
They WILL go after women and doctors even when the record shows the abortion was justified under the narrow interpretation of any of these laws.

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u/BreeCherie Sep 27 '22

By that logical, why do we even need prosecution offices at all

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u/Unreasonably-Clutch Sep 28 '22

Huh? To prosecute cases? Lead and manage staff and task forces?

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u/BreeCherie Sep 28 '22

Let me rephrase, large parts of prosecution offices are unnecessary if their role doesn't include interpreting the constitutionality of the law. Determining what and what not to prosecute is a very big part of the AG's office in the United States, it's never been up to legislation exclusively.

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u/Unreasonably-Clutch Sep 28 '22

Determinations of constitutionality are made by courts, not AGs. If the AG wishes to argue a position to the courts, that is his/her prerogative. But when courts rule on the constitutionality, that is the law, not the AG's opinion.

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u/rrollingThunderr Sep 28 '22

Just stop. She's not as smart as you and is happy being confidently incorrect.

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u/BreeCherie Sep 28 '22

Of course in theory, but AGs have opinions on constitutionality of laws all the time. To think they could be impartial is a joke, there's a reason they run partisan.

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u/5tatic55 Sep 28 '22

How are you getting downvoted for staying a fact

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u/Unreasonably-Clutch Sep 28 '22

Indeed. There seems to be a very far left wing echo chamber in r/phoenix

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u/FoxFireUnlimited Sep 28 '22

It's actually much better now than it was two months ago when I'd last checked:

https://ground.news/blindspotter/reddit/Phoenix

Before, it was less than 1% of articles from conservative sources and like 57% from Left and 42% from center or something like that.

The sources of AZFamily and ABC15 Arizona weren't in the reporting at all, that I remember so they've definitely had a positive effect moving things towards the center.

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u/iguru129 Sep 28 '22

If she wont uphold the laws, then she should step down.

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u/Dull_Ad_1439 Sep 28 '22

I hope they prosecute her if she’s refusing to enforce the law.

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u/Dicfore Sep 27 '22

She looks charming

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u/DingleberryMoose Phoenix Sep 28 '22

Now I'm left to wonder what would happen if a pregnant doctor prescribed herself an abortifacient and took it.

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u/AgnesTheAtheist Sep 28 '22

I'm convinced we need to rename the procedure we currently call, 'abortion'

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u/OUReddit2 Sep 28 '22

From AZFamily:

“Maricopa County Attorney says she won’t prosecute women who seek abortion

PHOENIX (3TV/CBS 5) -- As Arizona’s abortion law remains in legal limbo, Maricopa County Attorney Rachel Mitchell said she won’t prosecute women who seek an abortion. Her office released a video statement on Facebook addressing recent rumors that women who sought abortion care could face charges.

“I will not prosecute women for having abortions, and no statute even suggests a woman will be prosecuted for her decision,” Mitchell said. “Likewise, I will not revictimize survivors of rape, incest, or molestation.” She, however, didn’t answer if she would prosecute cases against doctors as the law would dictate. Under the new law, abortion providers would face two to five years in prison.

Social media rumors have swirled about the county’s top prosecutor’s position on abortion and how her office would handle such cases. “False statements being made about the law or about my position in order to sow fear for political gain are simply irresponsible,” said Mitchell.

While her office hasn’t received any abortion-related cases, she says she will seek the court’s guidance on what law to follow when her office does receive a request. For now, her office plans to focus on prosecuting violent crimes and the growing surge of fentanyl, in addition to what she calls other public safety threats.

Her comments come one day after Planned Parenthood of Arizona asked a state judge to put on hold a Pima County ruling that allows prosecutors to enforce the Civil War-era law banning abortion in nearly all cases. The state’s largest abortion provider said the ruling issued late Friday has created confusion about the status of the law in Arizona. Its lawyers cited conflicts created by the abortion ban dating to 1864, a more recent law banning abortions after 15 weeks, and a variety of other laws regulating the processes and paperwork when terminating pregnancies.

Pima County Superior Court Judge Kellie Johnson’s ruling lifted a 50-year-old injunction blocking enforcement of the 1864 law, which allows abortion only when the mother’s life is in danger. The injunction was imposed after the U.S. Supreme Court’s Roe v. Wade decision guaranteed a right to abortion in 1973.

Copyright 2022 KTVK/KPHO. All rights reserved.”

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u/may_flowers Sep 28 '22

Wow, how big of her 🙄

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u/duganaok Tempe Oct 03 '22

Is this an election seat?

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u/Emen85018 17d ago

So, the liberal Maricopa County prosecutors now get to determine which laws must be followed and which laws may be ignored? Interesting. How about assault on prosecutors, is that still illegal?

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u/pkdjones Sep 27 '22

Prosecute em all lol

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u/DarkeAngyle Sep 29 '22

Does anyone actually read the laws / bills before commenting on this crap? So far all I've seen is ppl parroting the carefully selected portions regurgitated in the media.

Everyone who thinks they're going to let a woman die in lieu of an abortion is an idiot. They're just not condoning willy nilly abortions after 15 weeks... when a heart beat can be heard.

You ppl will get upset about anything and everything that turns you into victims.