r/politics • u/rosexdaniel • Mar 27 '23
Congressman who represents the Nashville district involved in deadly school shooting posted a gun-toting family photo for Christmas in 2021 No Queue Flooding
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u/LaughableIKR Mar 27 '23
Jon Stewart nailed it with 'how many guns is enough to make us safe'?
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u/material_mailbox Mar 27 '23
What really drove home this point for me was law enforcement’s hesitance to engage the Uvalde shooter. That is, a large number of “good guys with guns” that hesitated to do anything about one bad guy with a gun who was in the process of murdering children.
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u/LaughableIKR Mar 27 '23
It really bothered me when they asked a kid who dialed 911 to shout out where he was... and the kid was shot by the gunman.
Nice going police.
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u/Then-Attention3 Mar 27 '23
Holy shit. I didn’t even know that happened. Fucking ACAB. I hate the police as much as I hate the politicians. They’re part of the problem. There’s no such thing as a good guy with a gun. Uvalade proved that.
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u/AlterMyStateOfMind Mar 28 '23
I might ruin your day even more. Did you know that a large chunk of the towns budget goes to their police force and that they had active shooter training at the towns high school just 2 months before the shooting?
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u/a1pha_beta Mar 28 '23
funny enough I remember one of the many excuses given was that it was a new school and they didn't know the layout.
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u/Drewlytics Mar 28 '23
Inexcusable. Retired FF. We went to every building in our district to preplan for events, even small businesses. And schools? We knew every room and hazard in advance. Different job, yes, but I'd expect police to have deep knowledge of all banks, donut shops, and schools in their service area.
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u/Icy_Day_9079 Mar 28 '23
The fire brigade come to my workplace at least twice a year and walk through all the buildings.
They have permission to film their walk and use the footage for training.
We also do table top exercises with both fire brigade and law enforcement to prepare for all sorts of stuff, bombs, marauders, and fires.
We’re nothing special but we are a large campus with lots of buildings open to the public.
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u/ignorance-is-this Mar 28 '23
People who want to be heros become fire fighters and EMT. I don't know what drives people to be police, but it really doesn't seem like the same motivation.
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u/NotesFromNOLA504 Mar 28 '23
They aren't smart enough to go to college, and they were bullied in high school and want to feel like badasses.
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u/DangerousWish2536 Mar 28 '23
Or they were bullies in high school and wanted to continue their ways.
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u/mortgagepants Mar 28 '23
if you ever are confused about whether the cops did the right thing or not, just replace "police" with "firefighter".
could you imagine if the uvalde fire department let a school burn for 2 hours while kids died because they were afraid of how dangerous the fire was? it would be unconscionable.
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u/spookycasas4 Mar 28 '23
And to add insult to injury, Uvalde Country voted straight republican in the 2022 Midterms. Blows my mind.
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u/marr Mar 28 '23 edited Mar 28 '23
At that point you can't even pretend to hope. Just get out, get your friends out where you can, and wait for the fires to burn down. The lead poisoning and post-polio syndromes can't last forever.
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u/Great_Zarquon Mar 28 '23
This is why they exclusively gather support from people who can't make the logical connection between cause and effect
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u/bozeke Mar 28 '23
All cops are stupid—that is as much of a problem as the bastardry.
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u/JohnnyD423 Mar 27 '23
They weren't good guys, though. One could easily argue that they were just more bad guys.
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u/nosotros_road_sodium California Mar 27 '23 •
Have you seen his interview with that Oklahoma state senator who sponsored laws loosening gun control? He was naive enough to accept an interview invitation yet complained about the editing.
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u/killer_icognito Mar 28 '23
Jesus god Jon tore his ass down. Guess I gotta get an Apple TV subscription
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u/Mediocre_Scott Mar 28 '23
Too stupid to know that he is too stupid to go one on one with Jon Stewart
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u/YoYoMoMa Mar 28 '23
God gun people get such a thrill out of having a weapon of death that they lose all sight of reality.
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I need guns to protect my family from (checks notes) other people with guns
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u/agonypants Missouri Mar 27 '23
"When does that curve kick in? Will a billion guns make us safer?"
Spoiler alert: more guns make us less safe.
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u/WhyMustIMakeANewAcco Mar 27 '23
The curve kicks in when there are so many guns it is physically possible to move enough to actually fire one!
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u/Silvercoin21 Europe Mar 27 '23
Exactly. The shooter war armed with 2 assault rifles and a pistol. That's as American as it gets
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u/cougrrr Washington Mar 27 '23 •
Easily stopped by two good assault rifles and a pistol. Err, two good pistols and an assault rifle?
Wait do we give the teachers guns?
I forget which but eventually we get more safe from what I’ve heard.
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u/specqq Mar 27 '23
And tax cuts for the rich eventually pay for themselves.
That part of those curves is just off screen.
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u/cougrrr Washington Mar 27 '23 •
It’s literally called Trickle Down Economics. They can’t lie in the name.
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u/nightsaysni Mar 27 '23 •
If you feed enough oats to the horse, some will pass through to feed the sparrows (referring to "trickle down" economics). John Kenneth Galbraith
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u/NeadNathair Florida Mar 27 '23
Too bad the sparrows have to eat a lot of horse shit just to get a small amount of oats.
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u/AgePractical6298 Mar 27 '23
Their logic doesn’t make sense. We don’t trust teachers enough to teach our kids. But feel ok handing them guns to protect the kids. 🤷🏻♀️
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u/LurksAroundHere Mar 27 '23
Well they mean certain teachers of course. Unarmed woke teachers are a threat that need to be replaced by gun toting history revisionist ones in their opinion. You know, to create a safer atmosphere. Eye roll
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u/AgePractical6298 Mar 27 '23
No training necessary, just answer a few questions and we will hand you a gun.
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u/peter-doubt Mar 27 '23
And, judging how some teacher/pupil interactions go, that's a recipe for more school shootings
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u/ARoamer0 Mar 27 '23
I mean these are the same people focused on “protecting” children from drag queens with frivolous legislation but insist that it’s pointless passing laws to keep kids safe from being shot in their classrooms.
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u/11thStPopulist Mar 28 '23
And books! Don’t forget books! They are so much more dangerous than guns!
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u/Roook36 Mar 27 '23
We need to remove doors. Or add doors. One of those. Or both!
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u/cougrrr Washington Mar 27 '23
No one ever stops to talk about all the law abiding doors making the world safer. SMH.
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u/fatuous_sobriquet Mar 27 '23
Over in the Canada sub, they’re being encouraged to have more guns to, uh, (checks notes) ah yes - prevent a military invasion. So.
It’s not getting better, the right wing sleaze machine is global and running hot.
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u/qtain Mar 27 '23
Had my nieces boyfriend argue with me needed an AR for duck hunting (yes, we're Canadian). Here or in the US, it doesn't matter how cogent, intelligent, fact based the discussion you have with them, it's all bad faith.
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u/SandMan3914 Mar 27 '23
I know Canadian Geese are assholes but really an AR?
Canadian gunowner here (restricted/nonrestricted) and those people are full of shit
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u/qtain Mar 27 '23
I don't own any firearms and I know he was full of shit and I'm Canadian. That's my point, he isn't making a cogent argument for why he needed an AR, it's bad faith.
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u/lutefisky Mar 27 '23
The Canada sub is a shithole of a sub as it’s been in the control of right wing mods for a few years now.
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u/vodfather Colorado Mar 27 '23 edited Mar 28 '23
r/onguardforthee - all the maple, none of the fascism.
E: spelling
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u/Affectionate-Print81 Mar 27 '23
Oh thank god. I was embarrassed reading that sub as a Canadian.
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u/Mimical Mar 27 '23
Absolute fucking nutjob comments get balloned to the stratosphere and the mods just let it run. I am hoping it's because of bots and directed misinformation but honestly I'm not convinced. The amount of arguments that get cherry picked while rewriting history as it's typed can be downright scary.
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u/Merfen Canada Mar 28 '23
Its basically all Trudeau/Liberal hate posts now some warranted, some faux outrage.
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u/throwaway-boxer Mar 27 '23
for a few years now
It was part of the rightwing strategy under Bannon to take over smaller online communities for local areas and force out the real locals.
This battle has been going on since like 2015, if not earlier. It's the social media version of the same types of groups buying out local news stations.
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u/Gibsonfan159 Mar 27 '23
What if I told you gun rights enthusiasts don't give a damn about actual safety statistics. It's not about a national level of safety to them, it's about having no restrictions on their hobby.
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u/NerdyDjinn Minnesota Mar 27 '23
Jon Stewart is probably the single biggest influence on my political beliefs; he has such a great way of cutting through all the political bullshit in a single question.
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u/Happy-Ad7440 Mar 27 '23
Agree 100%! I wish he had a show on regular tv. He is a wordsmith that tells it like it is and I love him!!
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u/owtlandish Mar 27 '23
I wish he wasn't on apple tv. Dude needs a way larger audience for people who don't subscribe.
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u/LaughableIKR Mar 27 '23
I'm with you. I don't know why he doesn't do a weekly youtube or Netflix or amazon etc. Apple+??? Yeash.
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u/OurUrbanFarm Mar 27 '23
Well, if everyone carried, say 6 guns, then we would be safe. Sure. It seems counter-intuitive, especially since the amount of violence and death has increased as we have been increasing the number of guns in society, at some point in the imaginary future, there will suddenly be enough guns that we will pass a magical tipping point where all of the violence will stop. So, more guns, please!
I'm pretty sure that is the official Republican position.
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u/ralmeida Mar 27 '23
If everyone carries 100 guns we'll be safe, because no one will be able to walk anywhere.
Checkmate, democrats.
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u/Khutuck Mar 27 '23
Have you ever been to a rural Walmart? You’ll see a platoon of 600 lbs guys on tracked mobility scooters wearing tacticool gear riding around like a Bob Semple tank.
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u/WeedFinderGeneral Mar 28 '23
Having that many guns only makes sense if you were in like the 1700s and only had single shot flintlock pistols.
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u/HailCorduroy Tennessee Mar 27 '23
The only reason he represents this area is our state legislature gerrymandered the hell out of Nashville and now I vote with people 3 counties away. This guy is a complete piece of shit and would still be the mayor of Columbia, TN if his fellow republicans hadn’t cheated the system.
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u/Maraudershields7 Mar 28 '23
I'm from Memphis but when I saw the post title I immediately thought "hmm which congressman for Nashville? There's 3 of them now."
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u/clickonthis1 Mar 27 '23
All of the Tn republican representatives are a piece of shit.
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u/bretticusmaximus Tennessee Mar 28 '23 edited Mar 28 '23
As a fellow hater of Scott "I'm a physician who sleeps with my patients and then coerces them to get an abortion" DesJarlais, have an upvote.
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u/sonofpicard Texas Mar 28 '23
All of the Tn republican representatives are a piece of shit.
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u/clam-caravan Tennessee Mar 28 '23
Fortunately Columbia has a decent human in Chaz Molder as mayor. I’m hoping Chaz decides to run for the 5th Congressional District when that seat is up. I’m certain he would destroy Ogles if Chaz ran on the Democratic or even the Independent ticket.
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u/97runner Mar 28 '23
One of the biggest issues with the 5th is that <31% of Nashville turned out. That was easily washed out by Wilson, Lewis, Marshall, and Maury. Williamson is solid R & will always be so. The votes for a D is going to come from Nashville. However, Molder has potential to carry Nashville and a large part of Maury (Columbia), which would give Ogles a true run, as I look at the data. Molder seems well liked by everyone.
You will never convince me that someone living in Wilson Co is a community of interest with Hohenwald, but that isn’t the point.
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u/WilHunting2 Mar 27 '23
Republicans: So what’s the problem?
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u/crackdup Mar 27 '23
They don't give a shit because it's not their kids.. then again Uvalde has shown us that morality is dead in America, dead kids are a cost that far right is willing to pay
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u/Ser_Dunk_the_tall California Mar 27 '23 •
We knew that 10 years earlier when Sandy Hook happened
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u/Cognitive_Spoon Mar 27 '23
I'm legitimately glad there's no discussion of Uvalde as fake. Alex Jones denying Sandy Hook and getting more followers while doing it was one of the lowest points in US rhetoric ever.
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u/Iisrsmart Connecticut Mar 27 '23
If he wasn't successfully being sued for over a billion dollars for defamation against sandy hook, you can certainly bet he would be calling false flag/paid actors with Uvalde.
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u/clash_by_night Mar 27 '23
Oh, there is. Or at least was right after it happened. I'm from Texas, about three counties over. My dad's cousin is this crazy middle-class conservative Christian Republican antivaxer/antimask gun nut Karen. She posted something, I kid you not, about Uvalde being the result of an MK-ULTRA government mind control project.
The internet has ruined us as a society. Good information can be passed around just as easily as bad, and bad info has a much lower entry point in that it doesn't require much knowledge or being grounded in reality. No matter how insane your ideas/beliefs, you can find someone else who agrees. That was the last straw for me. I had to block her for my own sanity. I just wish I'd grabbed some of the posts she made prior to Jan 6. She was egging it on but backtracked real quick after stuff went down.
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u/Daemonic_One Pennsylvania Mar 27 '23 •
I miss the days when the internet was self filtering because it wasn't yet so easy idiots could use it.
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u/SarahEH Mar 27 '23
There have always been crazy people falling for conspiracy theories. Look at the people who joined cults. The Internet certainly has found more of the people who would fall into a cult, but they’ve always been around.
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u/joshdoereddit Mar 27 '23
And hopefully, those lawsuits cripple him financially. He's a despicable cancer in this earth. Scum bag gives pieces of shit like Limbaugh a run for their money.
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u/myownzen Mar 27 '23
And like Limbaugh once he dies no one will miss him, be able to name one thing of positive consequence from his life and only mention him when mentioning other shit bags that would better the world with their deaths.
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u/InternetGamerFriend Mar 27 '23
Rush helped groom them to accept trading democracy for totalitarianism. One thing he always preached was to never ever compromise on anything despite the fact we live in America and America is a democracy and democracy is all about compromise. He was a real POS.
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u/LordOfThePinkyRings Mar 27 '23
That was my personal turning point. It’s when I finally knew that no amount of death or tragedy was going to invoke change. If a room full of dead babies doesn’t do it, nothing will.
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u/RogerClyneIsAGod2 Mar 27 '23
Same here. When they did nothing after Sandy Hook I knew there was no level they wouldn't stoop to in order to hold on to their NRA money & guns.
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u/BonerPorn Mar 27 '23
Naw, most of these shootings have been in middle to upper class suburban neighborhoods.
Hell today's was in a $16,000 a year private school. It won't make a difference.
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u/dbradx Canada Mar 27 '23
Yep. For me, Sandy Hook is when I lost all hope that the U.S. would ever do anything about gun violence. 27 toddlers were fucking murdered and Absolutely. Nothing. Changed.
Republicans and 2A fetishists are perfectly willing to sacrifice innocent children just so they can feel like a badass with an AR-15.
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u/BD401 Mar 27 '23
Yeah, Sandy Hook is hard to top in terms of outrageousness - when nothing changed with that shooting, it was pretty obvious nothing ever will.
The price of the second amendment is the occasional shooting rampage (some of them involving the massacre of children), and at a systemic level that's a price the American public and their politicians have decided is acceptable. It was a scenario the founding fathers could have never envisioned, yet here we are.
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u/gingerfawx Mar 27 '23
Yeah, but the folks in Uvalde themselves overwhelmingly voted for this to go on happening, after the fact. For me, that's a whole different matter.
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u/OrangeJuiceKing13 Mar 27 '23
I'm a firearm enthusiast and I have one single picture of myself holding a firearm and it was rare so I wanted to remember it. I've been shooting for over 35 years and these pictures give me the heeby jeebies. They use their religion and firearms as a personality because they have no actual personality to engage people with.
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u/BlaccBlades Mar 27 '23 •
"They get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."
Barack Obama
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u/ScubaSteveEL Mar 27 '23
They got so mad over that statement but he was 100% right
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u/The_God_King Mar 27 '23
And the fucked up thing is that they could own up to that statement and actually end up looking better for it. If they just stood up and said "Yes, I am bitter and angry because the world is changing in ways I don't understand, don't like, and can't stop. I feel like you've taken everything from me, but you're not taking this and consequences be damned" I would actually have more respect for them than I currently do. Which is not saying much, because I currently have zero respect for them.
But at least that is a point of view I can understand. I don't agree with it, but I can see where it comes from. And more importantly I can see a path from that point of view to something more constructive. Frustration isn't great, but at least it doesn't come from a place of active malice. But their current view point, flimsy and inconsistent as it is, can only be malicious. "I'm keeping my guns because fuck you. I don't care how many corpses I have to walk over to get them."
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u/chamekke Mar 27 '23
I’m not sure that the ability to introspect goes with that worldview. Rampant projection seems to be a prerequisite, which kind of excludes honest introspection.
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u/Courtaid Mar 27 '23
And if this was a Muslim family they would be labeled as Terrorists.
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u/asupremebeing Mar 28 '23
What the Conservative Movement is doing may be considered a form of terrorism.
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u/myownzen Mar 27 '23
Its just virtue signaling. You know that word they used to accuse everyone else of since they were/are guilty of doing it all the time.
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u/Jef_Wheaton Mar 27 '23
I own several firearms, but I don't have a single photo of any of them, let alone of me holding them. I live on a farm, and they're (unfortunately necessary) tools.
I do have one of me holding a pitchfork, which is also a farm tool, and I use it more than the guns.
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u/FiveUpsideDown Mar 27 '23
Christmas celebrates the birth of Christ, the prince of peace. Yet, Republicans use Christmas cards to celebrates guns, used for violence.
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u/Other_Meringue_7375 Mar 27 '23
just a reminder that Tennessee has the strictest abortion ban in the entire country, with no exception to save the life of the pregnant woman. If a physician terminates a pregnancy because the pregnant woman (or girl) will die without an abortion, the doctor will still be arrested, charged, booked, have to bond out and hire an attorney, but then the doctor will be able to claim the woman would have died without the physician having performed an abortion. The burden of proof is on the doctor, btw, to prove that the woman would have died without the abortion.
…the gall of these same politicians to pass anti abortion legislation during the same session they weaken regulations for guns & have the nerve to call themselves “pro life”
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u/casualreader22 Pennsylvania Mar 27 '23
Yeah, didn't Uvalde overwhelmingly vote to keep those in power when that happened in power last November? Have to assume some of the parents of those killed even. That speaks volumes. Terrible volumes, but still.
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u/Xikar_Wyhart New York Mar 27 '23
Probably not the parents who's kids died. But they were probably outvoted by the other idiots.
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u/lewoo7 Mar 27 '23 edited Mar 27 '23
They don't give a shit because it's not their kids..
They have PROVEN they dont give a shit if it were their own kids or grandchildren.
In the last decade or so, the ONLY time Republican politicians were temporarily willing to consider gun reform is when they themselves were shot at on a DC softball field.
In FL, Republicans implemented gun free zones and metal detectors at their workplaces but are against those same safety measures for schoolchildren (including their own).
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u/CaptJimboJones Mar 27 '23
Even when it IS their kids they don’t give a shit. This was a religious Christian school in Tennessee - don’t tell me that the vast majority of victims weren’t from GOP/MAGA families. And I guarantee, STILL you won’t see them calling for even moderate gun reforms. Because they love their guns more than they love the lives of their own children. It’s almost impossible for me to understand but you can’t come to any other conclusion based on their past behavior.
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u/thebinarysystem10 Colorado Mar 27 '23
A pile of dead children and Texans still show up to cheer on footage of the attack on the Capitol to the tune of the Jan 6 Men's Choir.
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u/brazilliandanny Mar 27 '23 edited Mar 28 '23
Republicans: Why do gay people have to make it their entire personality and shove it in my face?
Also Republicans: Here's my Christmas card with all my guns, to go with the gun decal on my car, and the gun pin I wear on my suit!
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u/redassedchimp Mar 28 '23
Democrats should wear a pin for each dead kid in the legislative year to remind everyone in session how many kids are dying each week.
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u/UWCG Illinois Mar 27 '23
GOP: Guns Over People
Their solution to guns in schools is, depressingly, all too often to put more guns in schools—cause why try to prevent mass shootings when you can instead turn schools into borderline war zones?
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u/SunMoonTruth Mar 27 '23
Because American “christianity” is a joke?
They also want to elevate gun ownership to the level of “sacred”, just like their “thank you for your service- patriotism”, reciting the “oath”, “god in schools” etc. etc. It’s to make it easier for the brainwashed to swallow without a peep of protest.
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u/Rated_PG-Squirteen Mar 27 '23
Andy Ogles, a freshmen GOP Congressman, who has blatantly lied about numerous aspects of his resume, and who posed with assault weapons in the family Christmas photo. Can't get more Republican than that. Ogles obviously cares about safety somewhat though, as his youngest child out of the three was not holding a gun in the photo.
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u/Long_Before_Sunrise Mar 27 '23
Ogles obviously cares about safety somewhat though, as his youngest child out of the three was not holding a gun in the photo.
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u/Kryslor Mar 27 '23
American politics are fucking WILD, man. Imagine posting that picture and then claiming you're christian. Bringing guns to the celebration of Jesus' birthday, just fucking lmao.
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u/Long_Before_Sunrise Mar 27 '23
She also said "On Twitter, a lot of the little Twitter trolls, they like to say, ‘Oh, Jesus didn’t need an AR-15, how many AR-15s do you think Jesus would’ve had? Well, he didn’t have enough to keep his government from killing him.”
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u/astrobeen Mar 28 '23
This is what just boggles the mind. According to the story, the Roman government literally sent a soldier with a weapon to kill Jesus, and one of his disciples was armed. He took out his sword and cut off the soldier’s ear. Jesus rebuked him, told him effectively don’t carry or use weapons ever, and HEALED the Roman soldier. In no way did Jesus ever indicate that anyone should ever take up arms against their government. Ever. He literally said the exact opposite.
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u/Lr217 Mar 28 '23
Implying that if the US government wanted to kill bobo they wouldn’t be able to since she has a gun LOL
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u/SafewordisJohnCandy Mar 27 '23
It's because it's not actually about Jesus or the holiday, it's for them to flex their true Republican Jesus beliefs.
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u/skj458 Mar 27 '23
Is the kid on the left the one that just made Bobo a Grandma? Babies having babies.
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I want to see family pictures where they're holding a circular saw, a shovel, a laptop, a physics book, a microscope... You know, instruments of creation and production instead of instruments of death. That would be a pleasant change.
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u/Mediocre_Scott Mar 28 '23
“It’s a tool just like a hammer” okay why is nobody posing with hammers on their Christmas card.
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u/camlloc255 Mar 28 '23
Making a mental note for next year.....
Eta: this family picture is just really really creepy
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u/FourthDownThrowaway Mar 28 '23
Republicans don’t read except for Facebook conspiracy posts.
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u/PoWerFullMoj0 Mar 27 '23
I wonder if our GOP Congresspeople are wearing their rifle pendants that used to be American flag pendants today?
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u/BigTentBiden Kentucky Mar 27 '23
Proudly, I'm sure.
They'll go to the funerals and wave it over the dead children bodies.
And they'll earn another 5% approval among Republican voters for doing so.
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u/readingrenee7 Mar 27 '23
It’s time to cover the whole gruesomeness of the action, the American news outlets sanitize all mass shootings.
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u/darthvadercock Mar 27 '23
Next time there’s a vote on gun regulation people need to have gruesome, graphic photos of what happened to these kids on display. ages 5-18 completely mutilated in their “safe” schools. I’m sure there’s some enraged families that would allow it. If republicans can look at those images, and in the same moment refuse to sign legislation to prevent it, it will at the very least embolden people to realize that this will never, ever stop.
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u/und88 Mar 27 '23
Emmitt Till's mom had an open casket for his funeral. That took courage, outraged the public, and motivated people to join the Civil rights movement.
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I was born in the 90s, only saw that image through the internet, and it is still burned in my brain forever. She sacrificed so the world could see the horrible consequences of hate
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u/smellyorange Massachusetts Mar 28 '23
If I die in a mass shooting, I want my family to use a significant portion of my assets to erect billboards with photos of my body along the interstates of rural America.
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u/sillythrowaway9 Mar 27 '23
I agree with you. It shouldn’t have to get to that point, but it seems like the only way to get it through their thick skulls
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u/wispygeorge Mar 27 '23
They would just feign outrage and leave. They’re shells of people at this point
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u/idontagreewitu Mar 27 '23
Is that any better than those people who drive around trucks with photos aborted fetuses on the side during protests?
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u/Tiny-Berry-7839 Mar 27 '23
another impressive holiday photo celebrating the birth of Christ "peace on earth, goodwill to men" I wonder if Jesus prefers the AR platform or one of those commie AK's?
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u/FineTheoretical
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It’s time to start naming these mass murders after performative lawmakers who are rabidly pro-gun without offering any plan for accountability, like we do hurricanes. This one should be “School Shooting Andy Ogle”.
Edit: Thanks for the awards, they show you are with the strong majority of Americans who support common-sense gun control laws. Go be vocal!
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u/AbsentGlare California Mar 27 '23
If you have one defect in an assembly line producing millions, maybe it’s a fluke. If you have hundreds of the exact same defect, something needs to be fixed.
These fuckheads are preventing any fix from being applied while actively encouraging the violence with their culture war bullshit. I fuckin hate these people.
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u/WhatRUHourly Mar 27 '23
Outside of anything else, photos like this are fucking weird. Even if you enjoy a hobby, to feature that hobby in a staged family photo is pretty weird. Like most people aren't showing off their lego collections in their Christmas cards. Yet Republicans love to do it with guns. Just weird.
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u/brazilliandanny Mar 27 '23
And its the same people that complain gays "make it their entire personality"
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u/WhatRUHourly Mar 27 '23
They'd also probably call the gun owners thugs if they took a similar picture.
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u/fasterthantrees Mar 28 '23
That's only for black and brown people taking pictures with guns. Old white men and their children are a-ok!
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u/preciousillusion Mar 27 '23
Nothing says Christ like weapons, I guess. /s
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u/Larry-fine-wine Mar 27 '23
“Turn the other cheek to throw them off your scent as you reach for your AR-15.” ~Jesus
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u/UWCG Illinois Mar 27 '23
My mom in particular is fond of making up or citing quotes she likes and attributing them to Jesus or the Bible and it seems to be a trend on the right, so I wouldn't be surprised to see one of them unironically claiming this...
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u/64557175 Mar 27 '23
"If Jesus Christ was shot in the head with no respect
We'd all wear little gold guns around our neck"
- KRS One
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u/T1442 Mar 27 '23
That photo is literally war on Christmas. I really fail to understand why anyone would think Christmas and guns go together.
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u/BethLP11 Mar 27 '23
I once received a photo Christmas card from a religious friend that was of her young son (8? 9?) holding a rifle and the rabbit he had presumably shot. What the hell? What about that says "The baby Jesus is born!" ?
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u/delectabledarloonie Mar 27 '23
Why are guns more important in America than children?
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u/justnews_app Mar 27 '23
Children are important! They have to be shielded from books, history, statues. Just not guns.
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u/Whoshabooboo America Mar 27 '23
Don't forget Drag shows!
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u/TechyDad Mar 27 '23
And rainbows!
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u/Agent7619 Mar 27 '23
And statues with tiny penises.
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u/thedreday Mar 27 '23
Hey, ho, i happen to find David's size very appropriate. It was cold that day.
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u/Flocago Mar 27 '23
I completely understand your point. They are being from all the wrong things.
However I would like to add, children are important and we have started to forget the actual value they are.
They are the most important. Literally if there is anything in the US that most of us would die for are the children. Literally the only people that would not die for the children are those people in office, making the laws.
And we let them. We just keep letting them. They smack us and and taunt us to our faces everyday with their privilege. Sheltered by their position and cohorts.
I live in middle TN. I overheard my boss talking about the shooting today with my manager. I fucking smiled about it and thought of the jokes and memes about how this is "the American past-time" and "whats more American than that".
Not even 30 seconds later I realized how disgusted I was with even that small smirk I had first hearing that news. This is not who we should be. This is not something to cope with. This is, always should, and always will be something to seethe over. But what can we do and what do we do?
I'm not outspoken enough and I'm not the one to light the fire. I wish I had that courage. Hand me an opportunity or a task and ill do it. But these kids aren't just some kids. These kids are every one of your kids. Whether you are right or left these are our kids and we need to start acting like they aren't. We need to stop letting those in office, those dragging their feet, to fucking do something about it. Obviously this is not working and kids are being buried funerals are being held for lives that barely got a chance to flicker. No more: sunshine, ice cream, friends, Christmas/holidays, memories, love. Thats what none of these kids will get. All of these things you have gotten to do, it will not exist for them.
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u/Gravelord_Baron Mar 27 '23
You said it well and its extremely depressing to read but its spot on. I work in healthcare and I always see the way that people come together so much more when its a kid who’s suffering, you see a young person who’s hardly even gotten to experience life yet with a serious injury or illness and it hurts way more than an adult in a similar situation ever would. I doubt I’ll ever have kids but I think of my niece and nephew a lot in those situations.
Its sad that our government somehow willfully chooses to not see the same thing, but when you see that most of them are lying cheating degenerates that promote violence, division, racism, sexism, hate, etc for profits it just isn’t surprising at all anymore
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u/ihunter32 Mar 27 '23
Literally the only people that would not die for the children are those people in office
Which should be changed
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u/HotPhilly Mar 27 '23
Children don’t lobby millions of dollars to keep politicians nice and corrupt.
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u/casualreader22 Pennsylvania Mar 27 '23
"If you abort a fetus you're a murderer, if a gun kills our actual child it's an acceptable loss!"
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u/openly_gray Mar 27 '23
Idiotic attempt to “own” the libs. Probably based on how easy their own constituents lose their shit over the smallest of things ( just look at the hysterical hateful rants on r/conservatives- and those guys are considered “moderate conservatives).
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u/bad_retired_fairy Mar 28 '23
I still don’t get how guns can be so much a part of someone’s personality that it becomes a focal point of your Christmas card.
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u/On_The_Contrary_24 Tennessee Mar 27 '23
I don’t say this lightly, but all Republicans seem to be good for is thinking of more ways for Americans to get killed. That’s it, that’s all they offer.
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u/domlyfe Mar 28 '23
It's so sad how lost these people are. They literally make guns not just their whole personality, but also their whole identity.
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u/---The_Arsenal--- Mar 27 '23
I love guns. I have some. I would never pose for a fucking Christmas photo with my family all holding guns. Fucking christ you look insane.
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u/davesreddit123 Mar 27 '23
With how Nashville is gerrymandered now, this guy could never run into a resident of Nashville for his entire term.
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u/CommanderReiss Mar 28 '23
reminder that if you use the actions of this person to demonize all trans people then you are a bad person.
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