r/politics • u/tomhagen • Nov 25 '22
Donald Trump dined with white nationalist, Holocaust denier Nick Fuentes
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/11/25/trump-white-nationalist-nick-fuentes-kanye-000708251.0k
u/joyfullypresent Pennsylvania Nov 25 '22
That's who he is.
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u/mces97 Nov 25 '22
When he said last month, Jewish Americans should be more appreciative of what he did for Israel, "before it's too late," I didn't see any ambiguity in that statement. To me it meant letting the Charlottesville white supremacists make good on their promise. 😓
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u/globaloffender Nov 25 '22
When asked if he denounced the PB, he said, “Proud boys… stand back…and stand by”
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u/entropydave Nov 26 '22
I found that one of the most chilling statements uttered. I am somewhat surprised that it wasn't jumped on either at the time or later. It was a clear instruction - it was an unambiguous order, not a slip of the tongue.
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u/unique_passive Nov 26 '22
Yup. It almost sounds exactly like what a fascist leader might say to a paramilitary group who are looking to kill protesters. Before, you know, later ordering that paramilitary group to kill other people.
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u/BassAddictJ Nov 26 '22 edited Nov 26 '22
Same. I remember watching him say that and it was a turning point of disgust for me.
Edit: timeline was off when he said it; but still remember the feeling of "this is some bullllllshit" when I heard him say it.
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u/Cyrano_Nose Nov 26 '22
But show me where he's ever been racist!
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u/williamfbuckwheat Nov 26 '22
"Unless you shout the N-word 3 times in a row in public, then you can't POSSIBLY be a racist1!1!1"
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u/hicow Nov 26 '22
and directs a command to the white nationalist/supremacist group, on national television, to stand back...stand by.
This was several years later - he said this during one of the debates with Biden leading up to the '20 election.
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u/BassAddictJ Nov 26 '22
thanks for the timeline clarification, the bullshit seems to blend together over time. Feeling was still valid when hey said that.
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u/thepianoman456 Nov 26 '22
Yea I audibly gasped at that moment.
I thought they were going to shove him off the stage right then and there. Fuck Trump for uttering that.
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u/Comfortable-Wrap-723 Nov 26 '22
He said it in 2018 “ if I lose election my supporters won’t like it and may do something “
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u/williamfbuckwheat Nov 26 '22
The media never jumped on anything he did or just thought it was amusing or trivial. They're wayyyyyy more concerned about laptops than if the president implies on live national TV Turing a debate that he has a band of violent, neofascist thugs on standby if he doesn't get his way (along with thousands of other red flags).
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u/MohandasBlondie Nov 26 '22
Don’t forget he followed that up with “we love you, we all love you” or words nearly identical.
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u/darrenlet31 Nov 25 '22
They can bring it on! As a Jewish man I welcome these cowards attempt. They’re all pussies!!
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u/sheepfreedom Nov 26 '22
Yeah even as a non-Jewish man this shit ain’t happening again sorry, idgaf how many gravy seals wanna fuck around — they’re gonna find out!
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u/darrenlet31 Nov 26 '22
Damn fucking right. And gravy seals is the perfect nomenclature!!!
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u/SSSLICED Nov 26 '22
Right wing racists aren’t the only people who get to own guns. They’re going to have a good time in physical therapy and six feet under if they take arms against innocents.
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u/sheepfreedom Nov 26 '22
Yesssirrr if you ask me that’s the biggest mistake they make thinking they’re the only ones armed and trained
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u/ICSL Nov 26 '22
Get 'em, Bear Jew. (For those who haven't seen inglorious basterds, it's a reference. Not derogatory.)
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u/darrenlet31 Nov 26 '22
Yes sir!!!! Never again!!
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u/RebornGod District Of Columbia Nov 26 '22
Are we collecting scalps? I might know someone who likes scalps.
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u/innocently_cold Nov 26 '22
"If you still respectfully refuse, I'm gunna call the Bear Jew over."
I love that movie.
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u/Justwatching451 Nov 26 '22
That's an insult to pussies. They are limited in mind and sick in their hearts. Horrible example of being human.
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u/Paidorgy Nov 25 '22
“He’s a person that represents me and my beliefs. Trump fights for me!” - low/middle class conservative voters.
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u/algebramclain Nov 25 '22
The GOP is the party of the rich and the racist. The rich keep the racists racist. The racists keep the rich rich.
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Nov 26 '22 edited Nov 28 '22
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u/Hourslikeminutes47 Nov 26 '22
(suddenly smiles as he grasps the hands of a degenerate former artist)
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u/Poltras Nov 26 '22
Alternate title: Nick Fuentes dined with White nationalist, Election and Holocaust denier Donald Trump.
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u/bradshawpl Nov 26 '22
No Kanye brought him for a dinner without announcing his guests. Then trump yelled at Kanye for thinking he could win 2024 and asking Trump to be a running mate.
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u/Squirrel_Chucks Nov 25 '22
That's fun.
This same Nick Fuentes hosts a white nationalist conference each year.
Marjorie Taylor Greene attended and spoke this year. Can't remember if she went on before or after Fuentes started a "Pu-tin! Pu-tin!" chant and said it was cool to be compared to Hitler.
Greene said she had no idea who the conference founders were, like she is used to just wandering in to random conferences (which is quite possible).
Paul Gosar blamed his staff for scheduling him for Fuentes' conference...twice. the first time he skipped out on a COVID relief vote to go. He said he couldn't attend because of COVID, and he attended a white nationalist conference instead.
In a more normal age, a former President meeting with a wannabe Nazi would kill that guys reelection chances. In this age, it might help him since the Republican party can't seem to really, meaningfully eject those shitters. More and more that reads like a choice.
Per another meme I saw on reddit, if you are at a rally and there is a Nazi there who isn't being kicked out, then you are at a Nazi rally.
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u/tiny_pickle9001 Nov 26 '22
Nick Fuentes
Someone should tell Fuentes that the GOP doesn't actually like Mexicans or white with Mexican blood. That's going against their values! Why else are they so obsessed with the US-Mexico border but not US-Canadian border?
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u/Eyclonus Australia Nov 26 '22
Fuentes is like Candace Owens, one of them good ones until there ain't any others left to persecute.
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u/tiny_pickle9001 Nov 26 '22
I don't see how POC don't see how racist the GOP is. I guess they think they'll be spared when the bad things start happening.
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u/el_muchacho Nov 26 '22
He knows very well, but he doesn't care, as long as HE benefits from riding the "token black friend" coat tail. He is just extremely cynical.
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Trust me, in Fuentes mind he is only hispanic when it benefits him. All other times he is pure-blood white.
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u/tiny_pickle9001 Nov 26 '22
Which is funny because Mexicans are usually about 60 to 75% indigenous, sure it varies, and it also varies wildly depending on which country they're from. It's hilarious like seeing Jewish Nazi. Sure there were probably Jewish Nazis at first, but then... no more!
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u/micro102 Nov 26 '22
Thank you for posting all of this so I didn't have to go look up all the details and do it myself.
I don't think enough people realize that the republican party is literally a party of fascists now.
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u/Squirrel_Chucks Nov 26 '22
don't think enough people realize that the republican party is literally a party of fascists now
OPENLY so.
Trump has said he wants to be able to send in the national guard to clean up cities without governor approval. That's literally the federal government invading a state, and it is 1,000% what Republicans say they are afraid of, but when their authoritarian says it then there's fucking crickets from the "party of states rights."
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u/Hay_Fever_at_3_AM Nov 26 '22
And setting up labor camps for homeless people? As if camps weren't one of the most iconic Nazi things
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u/MinuteConfidence2059 Nov 26 '22
Tbh they are pretty honest about only wanting their states to have full autonomy now. The federal abortion ban talks really nailed that in.
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u/GrundleMan5000 Nov 26 '22
This can also be said about Punk bars. If your at a punk bar and there's a Nazi there? It's a Nazi skinhead punk bar.
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u/PicardTangoAlpha Canada Nov 26 '22
If you’re at a rally with Nazis, you’re a Nazi. MTG is a Nazi. Trump is a Nazi. Nazism in the United States is as old as Nazism itself and never went away.
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u/nonprofitnews Nov 26 '22
Sheldon Adelson gave Trump like $30M and 10x as much to other Republican causes to protect Jewish interests.
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u/Teacher-Investor Nov 25 '22 edited Nov 26 '22
“This past week, Kanye West called me to have dinner at Mar-a-Lago,” [Trump] wrote. “Shortly thereafter, he unexpectedly showed up with three of his friends, whom I knew nothing about."
“If it was any other party, breaking bread with Nick Fuentes would be instantly disqualifying for Trump,” said Democratic National Committee spokesperson Ammar Moussa. “The most extreme views have found a home in today’s MAGA Republican party.”
So, Trump agreed to have dinner with a known antisemite and feigns surprise that he brought other antisemites to join them. MAGA is ok with it all as it's just a cozy little dinner for five normalizing bigotry. Got it.
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u/Huplescat22 Nov 25 '22 edited Nov 25 '22
Multiple maniacs enjoy elegant meal, shriek and wave arms over dessert.
Fuentes identifies as an incel (or "involuntary celibate"), although some of his supporters have criticized him for being a "voluntary celibate" after he admitted that he kissed a girl while he was in high school.[90] He has attempted to defend himself as an incel by claiming that "having sex with women is gay" and that "the only really straight heterosexual position is to be an asexual incel."[91]
On March 10, Fuentes praised "czar Putin" for the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine, which he claimed was "to liberate Ukraine from the Great Satan and from the evil empire in the world, which is the United States."[62] On May 14, 2022, Fuentes falsely claimed on his Telegram account that the 2022 Buffalo shooting was a "false flag" attack
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u/PepsiMoondog Nov 25 '22
Fellas, is having sex with women gay?
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u/chowderbags American Expat Nov 25 '22
Yeah. If you were a real manly man, then the only people tough enough to have sex with you would be lumberjacks, cowboys, and especially sailors. A real man would need to cover themselves in seamen to be satisfied.
You go on and enjoy your "woman". What's she gonna do, dress up real nice in something pink and silky, just like you like it? She probably smells real pretty too. Hah, gaaay.
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u/Tatooine16 Nov 26 '22
I'm a lumberjack and I'm ok, I sleep all night and I work all day.
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u/Dirigio Nov 26 '22
Fellas, is having sex with women gay?
Only if you take your socks off.
After reading the wiki for Fuentes the guy seems all over the map. He actually praised the Taliban because they were conservative and religious yet thinks that Muslims should not have the same rights to free speech in this country. Guy sounds like a class A weirdo.
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u/Jaded_Prompt_15 Nov 25 '22
He has attempted to defend himself as an incel by claiming that "having sex with women is gay"
Incels will believe anything...
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u/fillinthe___ Nov 26 '22
Also, if he believes that, then he’s VOLUNTARILY not having sex. He’s so fucking stupid, he can’t even be an incel correctly.
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u/9167217381832 Nov 26 '22
Nah, heterosexuality is homosexuality is specific to Nick Fuentes. Not even the run of the mill incels believe that. They all want to become the chad eventually.
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u/Expensive-Ad-4508 Nov 25 '22
I’m sorry, WHAT?! Having sex with women is gay? Only if you ARE a woman. What in the world…
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u/overcomebyfumes New Jersey Nov 26 '22
Women are WEAK! Real MANLY MEN wouldn't have sex with something so effeminate! Also, touching your ass is TOTALLY GAY! Real men wouldn't be caught dead wiping! Chunky skidmarks are the sign of an enlightened ultra-masculine chad!
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u/__M-E-O-W__ Nov 26 '22
And this cheeto-stained shirt is just me displaying vivid orange colors to warn other males to stay away from my territory, which is marked by my scent. Back off, betas.
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u/Huplescat22 Nov 25 '22
I suspect that he's in the closet and over-overcompensating.
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u/Eyclonus Australia Nov 26 '22
Comments by a former house mate of his confirm this, when Nick found out this guy had a one night stand while Nick was traveling he pulled out a UV light and blamed all the stains on this guy, this was something he often did to ensure there was no sex behind his back. He hated the idea of women being in the house. He also touched a lot, like on the shoulder or the arm, where it could be dismissed as being Manly contact, only to an excessive degree.
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u/Draft-Repulsive Ohio Nov 26 '22
Is the pants-shitting rumor true? He blocked me on Twitter for posting about that
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u/Eyclonus Australia Nov 26 '22
I was just pointing to the stuff that sound like unresolved sexuality issues.
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u/Concession_Accepted Nov 26 '22
I am 99% sure he is absolutely gay. Everything about the man sets off my gaydar. It seems extremely obvious to me that he's into men and he hates himself for it and is hugely overcompensating.
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u/TGOL123 Nov 26 '22
people need to stop saying this stuff about these freaks
stop constantly claiming these guys must not be straight. it's insanely insulting
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u/BraveTheWall Nov 26 '22
To be fair, if you've ever watched Nick Fuentes speak when he's not doing his "show" it's almost entirely obvious he's at least bicurious. Given that he's a far right, repressed Catholic I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of his extremist rhetoric comes from his own self loathing and inability to accept that it's okay to be gay.
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u/yukeynuh Nov 26 '22
he’s legitimately in the closet. he went on a date with a nazi cat boy. this is not a joke
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u/Concession_Accepted Nov 26 '22
Have you ever watched a video of the guy? He comes off as a heavily closeted gay man. It's possible that he isn't, but people refer to "gaydar" for a reason. A lot of people give off a certain "vibe" and this guy has that vibe in spades.
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u/Sad-Milk3361 Nov 26 '22
Fuentes wants to resegregate the country and use the military to stop Blacks from entering white areas. He wants to recind a woman's right to vote.
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u/syncopator Nov 25 '22
I just think it's fucking hilarious that Trump is shitting on Fuentes by acting like he doesn't know him.
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u/BraveTheWall Nov 26 '22
He does this with all extremist supporters. Remember his Proud Boys stand down and stand by moment? It followed shortly after he said he "didn't know much about them besides the fact they like the great things he's done for the country."
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u/Teacher-Investor Nov 26 '22
He's the king of plausible deniability.
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u/james_d_rustles Nov 26 '22
It’s not even plausible, he’s just expecting that everyone else will go along with it. Of course he knows who qanon and proud boys are. It’s really one of these “who are you gonna trust, me or your lying eyes?” situations.
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u/j_la Florida Nov 26 '22
I feel bad for Trump’s Jewish grandchildren. Having a bigot for a grandfather sucks.
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u/silverbeat33 Nov 25 '22
Piece of shit has dinner with piece of shit.
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u/spoobles Massachusetts Nov 25 '22
Donald Trump, white nationalist, Holocaust denier, dined with Nick Fuentes, white nationalist, Holocaust denier,
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u/__M-E-O-W__ Nov 26 '22
They had to wait for the cold weather to arrive so the flies wouldn't bother them.
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u/Don_Quixote81 Great Britain Nov 26 '22
Well, at least it's likely that neither of them had a good time. Can you imagine how dreadful it must be to dine either with Trump or Fuentes?
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u/hiero_ Nov 25 '22
Nick Fuentes has literally used the whole "If I had 3 years to bake 6 million cookies how many ovens would I need" argument LIVE ON STREAM. THERE IS FOOTAGE OF THIS.
These people are fucking disgusting.
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u/OftenSilentObserver North Carolina Nov 25 '22
Don't forget comparing interracial relationships to fucking dogs because they're both degenerate, and that's on the tamer side of his white nationalist comments.
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u/Krillin113 Nov 26 '22
proceeds to hang out with Kanye west, who he biracial children, and Is black himself. These people all deserve each other.
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u/darzinth Nov 26 '22
That's not to mention that Fuentes called out one of his buddies for getting a girlfriend, because they were supposed to be incels-for-life.
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u/restore_democracy Nov 26 '22
He needs help with some cookie math? Let’s see, that’s 2 million a year, about 167k/month, 5500/day, roughly 20 dozen/hour. If an oven can hold two dozen at a time and they’re in for about 15 minutes then then one oven can do 8 dozen an hour, so three. Doesn’t seem difficult.
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u/restore_democracy Nov 26 '22
Ok, two ovens should do it then. Who needs 6 million cookies?
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u/MrNillows Nov 26 '22
I know this is cookie math but holy when you lay out the numbers like that it is insane how many people were dying in the war every single day.
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u/Krillin113 Nov 26 '22
6 million is also just the Jews. 12 million total in the Holocaust, roughly 50 million all things combined. Yes. It wasn’t a fun time.
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u/HollyAtwood Nov 26 '22
Many if not most victims of the Holocaust I would imagine were not cremated
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u/Philosopher115 Nov 26 '22
I did some napkin math with some assumptions, and it would take 1.05 years to bake 6 million cookies.
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u/AllowMe2Retort Nov 26 '22
With just one oven?
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u/threlnari97 Connecticut Nov 25 '22
Call all of them what they fucking are, media.
Neo Nazis. N-e-o-_-N-a-z-i-s. It’s literally not this fucking hard.
What will it take for the media to take this internal threat seriously and call it like it is?
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u/penonoir Nov 25 '22
The media coddles them, gives them air time and indirectly contributes to the chaos.
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u/Twenty_One_Pylons Nov 25 '22
No, it directly contributes.
Right wing conspiracy theories and their advocate get far more air time than any other person
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u/forthecause4321 Nov 26 '22
We saw what the media did to Kyrie and Kanye but I do find it interesting that the boycott and backlash isn’t on the same level for Trump and other Republicans who associate with these antisemites.
No one wants to talk about this issue but it’s right in front of us and many people of color are asking the same questions.
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u/socokid Nov 25 '22
Pieces of shit float together.
shrugs
The problem isn't that ignorant racists like Donald exist. Its that there's a lot of people that like him, which is disgusting as hell.
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u/Vouru Nov 25 '22
2 people are sitting at a table and a nazi soon joins them, 3 Nazis are sitting at a table.
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u/mrmoreawesome Nov 25 '22
"Shortly thereafter, he unexpectedly showed up with three of his friends, whom I knew nothing about."
An ex-president with a secret service detail had a neonazi "unexpectedly" show up at a planned dinner party.... right
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u/lamsham69 Nov 25 '22
Who the F is surprised… Trump is the biggest racist around why do you think and how do you think he got the GOP leadership
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u/Perfect_Bench_2815 Nov 26 '22
Reminder: Trump trashed Obama openly before the Republicans got started. The Republicans really embraced him for his racist antics. Trump fully understood what he had accomplished and has never looked back. Maga was born. Trumps racism extends to the Jews. Another feather added to his racist followers.
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u/Q_OANN Nov 25 '22
Elon is on a banning spree of anti fascist/left leaning accounts. Andy ngo leading the push, they made a list of 5000 users to share and spam reports on, on top of their new trend to call anti fascists pedophiles
https://twitter.com/stevanzetti/status/1596208534777397248?s=46&t=KS1hXTQFGf1XDIcrN4TGNw
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u/BarbellsandBurritos Illinois Nov 25 '22
God I remember when this asshole was some niche weirdo in dumb sunglasses who I think had some weird no sex/no fap thing going on. I’m sure he still does, but man I hate that he’s getting amplified.
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u/Mediocre_American Illinois Nov 25 '22
With A last name like “Fuentes” it makes you wonder how he can be a white supremacist
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u/upandrunning Nov 26 '22
The same way a gay person like Dave Rubin can be a republican. He'll sell whatever keeps the $$$ flowing.
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u/yellowpawpaw Nov 26 '22
There are Europeans (specifically of the Iberian Peninsula) that didn’t all end up in South and Central America: some have thriving communities. He’s probably a Portuguese or Spaniard.
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u/GganbuBuddy_ Nov 26 '22
He’s actually the mexican child leader of the white race, and a homosexual
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u/dal-Helyg Nov 25 '22
He's becoming a parody of himself.
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u/JeffThrowSmash Nov 25 '22
Which one is the bigger parody?Trump, Nick, or Ye?
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u/dal-Helyg Nov 25 '22
When one walks into an outhouse on a hot summer day and looks into the hole in the seat, the variety of the contents isn't what makes the first impression.
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u/debyrne District Of Columbia Nov 25 '22
Wait… are you saying an aspiring fascist dined with another aspiring fascist?! Shocking for sure
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u/downtowncoyote Nov 25 '22
Jared Kushner must be so proud. The star at his synagogue.
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u/entropySapiens Nov 26 '22
Isn't Fuentes a Hispanic last name? Doesn't he realize that he could become one of "them" if this white nationalist movement metastasizes fully?
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u/WaterChi Nov 25 '22
I thought they were going to say he dined alone....
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u/Ksevio Nov 25 '22
At a Trump dinner there was a white supremacist, a holocaust denier, and a member of a criminal conspiracy, yet there was only one hamberder, how is this possible?
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u/Hopeful_Hamster21 Nov 25 '22
I have a hot date tonight. A date. Dinner with Fred. Dinner alone.... https://youtu.be/Yj7XA3tiGUg
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u/thecaptcaveman Nov 25 '22
Is anyone shocked? No? Trump is a kingpin and he will use that status until he is removed from the earth.
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u/CDNJMac82 Nov 25 '22
That Fuentes kid is like...24 years old. How is he a commentator. Aren't there any requirements other than being racist for that job?
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u/thefugue America Nov 25 '22
Not anymore. Dude has like a YouTube channel and nobody knows what else to call him.
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u/moo6o6 Nov 26 '22
He doesn’t have a YouTube channel, he’s banned off nearly every platform known to man. He even had to make his own website.
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u/Acceptable_Feed7004 Nov 25 '22
White supremacists dine out, and water is wet. More at 11
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u/H0agh Nov 25 '22
Kanye West actually invited Nick Fuentes over.
They're both rabid anti-semites so common ground in that at least I guess.
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u/SectionOk2775 Nov 25 '22
And yet around 30 percent of Jews in the US, and all of Israel will continue to grovel at his feet. Disgusting
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u/thetripleb Illinois Nov 26 '22
Donald Trump could dine with Satan himself and still carry the Evangelical vote
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u/magician_8760 Nov 26 '22 edited Nov 26 '22
Do we really have white nationalists called Nick FUENTES now?
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u/cottonmouthVII Nov 26 '22
He hung out with Epstein and fully embraced the endorsement of David fucking Duke... This is hardly shocking.
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u/Destination_Centauri Nov 25 '22
Only people missing in the room at that point was...
Elon Musk, and Hitler's ghost!
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u/Coyote65 Washington Nov 25 '22
and Hitler's ghost!
Nah, he was there. Dude's ever present with these people.
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u/Jwagginator Nov 25 '22
Nick Fuentes is from my high school. Graduated the same year too. I even sat next to him on the bus before lmao. The only empty seat left was next to him and I asked if I could sit there but he kind of gave me a dirty look and didn’t say anything but I sat.
He told us he was going to run for president in 2036, as soon as he’s eligible. We’re all speechless on his trajectory so far.
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u/shadowdra126 Georgia Nov 25 '22
And republicans wonder why people say they are bigots and racists… amazingly dense they are
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u/Nuzzgargle Nov 25 '22
Pretty sure he knows he isn't going to lose any votes by being seen with a racist.. or for that matter a convicted felons, conspiracy theorists, paedophiles (alleged at least) and all manner of people that I would avoid at all costs
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u/Jimbo415650 Nov 26 '22
Trump relates to deniers. If cornered he’ll say he was unaware who they were. He knows everything about anyone who has dinner with him. He wants to know what people can offer him in order to do that he knows who they are
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u/BeKind_BeTheChange Nov 26 '22
It's not the first time Trump has dined with a white nationalist and/or a Holocaust denier. And it won't be the last.
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u/we_are_sex_bobomb Nov 26 '22
Every time Trump eats any meal he’s dining with a white nationalist holocaust denier, even if he’s dining by himself.
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u/Somebody_Forgot Nov 26 '22
I read that title wrong and got quite excited…now reality has made me less than fully happy.
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u/SilverMedalss California Nov 26 '22
The article says this Fuentes was brought as a guest by Kanye west.
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u/Truth-speaks2021 Nov 26 '22 edited Nov 30 '22
The fact that we are talking about Biden, Trump, and Ye as our next President proves just how dumb we are as a nation!!
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u/Timmy24000 Nov 27 '22
Doesn’t the Secret Service screen everybody that gets near Trump? Wouldn’t have told him who this guy was?
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u/FromFartToPoop Nov 25 '22
Don’t ever forget. The Israeli government supported this dude. Never forget. Now they found out who he really was and want “us” to do something about it. We done with Israel too. Enjoy it fuckers.
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u/Dangerous-Today1874 Nov 26 '22
In Trump's own statement he says "[Kanye and] three of his friends" but the accounts and reporting never specify who the other two are, except for Nick Fuentes.
It it safe to assume, based on photos posted on social media, that the other two are Milo Yiannopolous and Sneako? Trump having dinner at MaraLardo with Kanye, Nick Fuentes, Milo and Sneako?
Seriously?
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