r/technology • u/PineBarrens89 • Mar 21 '23
Former Meta recruiter claims she got paid $190,000 a year to do ‘nothing’ amid company’s layoffs Business
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/meta-recruiter-salary-layoffs-tiktok-b2303147.html15.5k
u/mb0205 Mar 21 '23
If I made $200k to do Jack shit I would never say a word about it and lay low. How do you fumble a bag that bad
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u/HarbaughCantThroat Mar 21 '23 •
Yea if you make 200K and do nothing then your job is to look and sound busy. Dressing well everyday, calendar booked top to bottom with random tasks, camera on in every meeting, etc. Don't give anyone a reason to be suspicious about what you're actually getting done.
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u/AvailableCandidate89 Mar 21 '23
A dream job is being paid to put in a ton of effort to pretend to work? At what point is this more effort than actually doing something.
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u/RogueOneWasOkay Mar 21 '23
I pretend to work all day every day and I’m not making $200K a year
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u/finger_milk Mar 22 '23
I feel like a lot of men get into this exact situation at around this age. And you're still 20 years from retirement.
Christ.
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u/MarkNutt25 Mar 21 '23 edited Mar 21 '23
Dressing well everyday, calendar booked top to bottom with random tasks, camera on in every meeting
That's "a ton of effort" to you? All of this, except dressing well, is a miniscule part of what my job entails!
And I get paid a hell of a lot less than $190k!
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u/greedcrow Mar 21 '23
Right? I wonder what OP does that he thinks thats hard work.
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u/alakazamman Mar 21 '23
Sysadmin, i babysit computers in my underwear. the scripts i write are probably shorter than the daily emails she made to keep appearances up.
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u/lurch1_ Mar 21 '23
Exactly...and then when they do discover this and lay you off you gotta "pretend" in your next job interviews how you actually worked and gained all these skills for 2 yrs.....only to be hired and to have to pretend all over again because you have none of the skills you claimed you had.
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u/horse3000 Mar 21 '23
You just discovered what a lot of people do in life.
Fake it until you make it.
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u/Toggiz Mar 21 '23
I faked it until I got to a company that taught me how to actually do my job the right way. Now I fake the next level of expertise.
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u/Anal-Churros Mar 21 '23
Just keep job flipping every couple years and the trail of bullshit you leave in your wake will never catch up with you. It’s only people foolish enough to stay on with a company that get held accountable for prior actions.
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u/hereticnasom Mar 21 '23
This is like 70% of IT jobs... IF there is something you don't really know how to do, you say "I used to do that, but it's been a while, and I would love to learn to do it the #Insert company name# way."
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u/rabidjellybean Mar 21 '23
That's what I do. I cram the basic concepts before an interview, spout some basic terms along with how I haven't touched it in a while, and I get the job where they barely touch anything beyond those basics.
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u/Anal-Churros Mar 21 '23
This is most jobs tbh. Unless you work directly with something real physical like the human body or construction of buildings. Honesty I have to relearn half my job every time I switch teams because everyone has their own way.
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u/Anal-Churros Mar 21 '23
I think you overestimate how necessary actual skills are in a lot of jobs. Just as long as it says you did something on paper that’s all that matters.
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u/HPCmonkey Mar 21 '23
It largely depends on how senior your hired position is and how deeply on the hook for deliverables you are.
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u/dbcanuck Mar 22 '23
credential inflation is absolutely real, and a plague on modern hiring practices. my colleagues always complain they can't find talent... meanwhile i'm hiring someone whose willing to show up on time with a good attitude, and some modest technical ability and tell them we'll learn as we go.
fuck, IT technology stacks turn over every 5-10 years no matter what you're running. better to be a fast learner for 80% of the job, than someone whose a 100% fit because its the only thing they know.
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u/SodlidDesu Mar 21 '23
I mean, I could go for 'get paid to look pretty' just as much as I could go for 'get paid for fulfilling work'. You're allowed to have more than one dream.
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u/King-of-Plebss Mar 21 '23
The appearance of effort and actual effort are two different things. I can make myself look busy while also completing a shit ton of certification courses to boost my career when the do nothing job eventually falls though.
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u/Naive_Move1211 Mar 21 '23
THIS!!! I was recently laid off due to budget cuts from Meta (client)and a company restructure. When someone reached out and inquired about my bandwidth I ALWAYS ranted off random things I had to do and how I worked late. NO ONE needs to know every single thing you are working on, specially your coworkers and friends and family. Hell, I only mentioned that I worked on things for Meta to my sister and my mom. Every one else got a generic reply, I made sure never to mention any of my clients to anyone.
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u/CheeseIsQuestionable Mar 21 '23
Disagree with the camera part. Unless it’s a small meeting. Most video apps will move people to the the top of the list and show you if you have your camera on. Don’t do anything to draw attention to yourself. If it’s an 8 person meeting, yeah, camera. If it’s 39, no.
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u/dabenu Mar 22 '23
You do if you want to give the impression you're that one person who actually cares about their useless meeting...
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u/SanDiegoGME Mar 21 '23
I have a standing two hour meeting. Red color on Outlook. Everyday.
PS5 time for nyself
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u/cold-corn-dog Mar 22 '23
In have "meetings" for my first and last hour of every day.
Morning meeting is a dump and coffee. Maybe drink that outside where it's nice.
End of day meeting is when I go to my couch to take a nap before I start my evening.
It's wonderful.
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u/NewtotheCV Mar 21 '23
And if you lose your job, don't ruin it for everybody else that has a sweet job like you had.
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u/CarmenxXxWaldo Mar 21 '23
It's probably more common then people think, especially in IT. One of my friends dad's retired from a software engineering job awhile back in his late 60s. When they were wondering why he didn't retire sooner since they seemed pretty well off he explained his job entailed basically replying to 2 emails a month for the past decade. He had so much pto he was effectively part time the past 5 years. The shit he worked on was from like the 80s but enough people still used it they thought they needed him.
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u/WrathOfTheSwitchKing Mar 21 '23
For ancient systems like that, it's often cheaper to pay one of the last remaining experts to be available than it is to re-engineer an entire system developed during the Reagan administration. The fallout when they retire is super funny too; you'd think management would have a plan but they never do.
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u/90bronco Mar 21 '23
This isn't an IT problem. This is a disconnected bosses problem. I've been yelling about not having enough people to train and replace the senior guys who are all 2-5 years from retirement, and I just get told that our head count numbers need to be evaluated and a business plan presented. But I'm not the person who can do any of that, and the person who agrees and has asked for more people.
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u/NextJuice1622 Mar 21 '23
This just happened with my team. We had the senior engineer retire and the whole last year he was here, we were down a person, not counting his potential replacement. It was really difficult to find time to cover things he did while barely keeping our head above water with our day to day. Then, the last 3ish months, we really didn't include him on projects because we needed to sink or swim. I was the newest on the team, which I used as an opening to grow into my position...so thankfully we were swimming at half capacity(small team) when we hired the previous backfill...but not before we burned 9months of time. We then backfilled his position with someone that is GREEN because they were internal. Don't even get me started there.
It wasn't my manager's fault at all, it was how slow the company moved. We have had minor hiccups, but we've mostly recovered...just have less time to deal with the bs. Internally we knew we'd be fine because we are skilled, but you can only run lean for a short period before shit starts breaking. Also, you find out real quick the little side things are being promised by those senior people when their email starts bouncing. Ouch. It worked out for me though, I got a 'promotion' and three big pay bumps in a year.
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u/mb0205 Mar 21 '23
Sounds like the dream lol
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u/SolidAdSA Mar 21 '23
It's also risky too, if they decide to replace your work with something newer.
But I'm sure the dad would know if that was coming
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u/sprucenoose Mar 21 '23
Sounds like he was ready to retire anyway and just stayed on because it was basically free money. Don't see the downside.
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u/bonerparte1821 Mar 21 '23
Those are the sweetest gigs. Not sure where I saw it here but someone basically got reassigned 2x in a short period of time and got lost in the shuffle. By the time he arrived on team 2 they didn’t know he existed for something like 5 or 6 years.
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u/GreatStateOfSadness Mar 21 '23
If we're thinking of the same thread, his team got shut down but he never got reassigned, so he existed outside of any teams and didn't directly answer to anyone, and nobody checked.
Then there's the story of the guy who got assigned himself as manager, and just did all his own performance reviews without actually doing any work.
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u/Rentun Mar 21 '23
It sounds insane, but working at a huge corporation I could totally see how this could happen. I’m an engineer, but a few years back I was poking around some admin system and realized I had like 3 offshore direct reports. I thought it was some sort of clerical error so I brought it up to my boss, and he was like “oh yeah we administratively assigned them to you because I hit the limit for directs. I guess I forgot to mention that”
These guys had been assigned to me for like six months doing god knows what. I was supposed to be meeting with them, doing quarterly reviews, and assigning them work this whole time. If I hadn’t happened to randomly sign into that admin system I don’t actually use, they’d still be doing whatever they want all day long to this day and drawing pay for it.
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u/_Stealth_ Mar 21 '23
Dumb people gonna be dumb.
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u/zephyrprime Mar 21 '23
It's not really about dumbness. It's about attention seeking. It's pathological for many people. Platforms like TikTok are magnets for attention seekers of course.
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u/dankestofdankcomment Mar 21 '23
Come on, she’s dumb as fuck.
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u/WhiteHartLaneFan Mar 21 '23
She quit the day before she was going to be fired therefore forfeiting unemployment and severance. She’s definitely dumb
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u/seriouscaffeine Mar 21 '23
If she were fired for misconduct she definitely would not have received severance or unemployment
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u/WhiteHartLaneFan Mar 21 '23
It's a lot of paperwork to jump through legal hurdles that could arise from a wrongful termination suit, they usually provide at least a few weeks of severance at this larger companies to avoid this. Signing the termination papers usually contain clauses that protect them from future legal cases.
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u/robotmonkeyshark Mar 21 '23
She likely would have had to sign a non-disclosure agreement to not discuss the job and the leaving conditions in order to get severance and she wants tiktok fame
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u/AnotherDude1 Mar 21 '23
"yeah, that's right! I sure showed them!" While not realizing 2 weeks pay is $7300 and it's worth it to get a severance of a few weeks. Stupid is as stupid does
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u/egospiers Mar 21 '23
Chasing internet clout… the need to impress people you’ve never met or will meet really might be the thing that brings down our society lol.
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u/Bonersaurus69 Mar 21 '23
I was paid a comparable salary for a comparable level of work. Logic dictates that I should have kept my mouth shut but it’s harder than you think.
My 1st career was in social work. After 3 raises and a promotion to a role with direct reports, I was making $30,500/year. I worked my ass off doing a lot of shit that was very necessary. Between dealing with government regulations, public health programs, mental health updates, marketing the agency to prospective donors, and then actually dealing with kids with limited functioning and every reason to be mad at the world, it was an absolutely massive workload.
A few years ago, I tripped and fell into consulting where I was paid roughly $150,000/year, not including the free cell phone, child care, etc. where I go to virtual meetings and occasionally change logos on a few slides.
The mental anguish I have over realizing that I get paid 5x as much to do virtually nothing is no joke. I think every day about how broken this society is and how I’m a cog in the machine. But I have to be if I expect my kid to have a lifestyle remotely decent.
I’d recommend picking up a copy of “Bullshit Jobs” by David Graeber if you’d like a deeper understanding of this issue.
That being said, I’m apparently just old enough to not have the urge to broadcast it on the internet
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u/VenserSojo Mar 21 '23
She works in HR, after meeting many HR workers I expect it from those types. There are exceptions but overall that level of dumb in a company only comes from nepotism or HR.
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u/Gekokapowco Mar 21 '23
HR is the special kind of corporate influencer that might actually believe the bullshit they're selling, and that's kinda scary
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u/SuperToxin Mar 21 '23
I would have died with that secret. And probably love the job, as I get to do nothing. Some people are very stupid.
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u/Actually-Yo-Momma Mar 21 '23
“Wah I’m so bored”
How do people not realize this is a dream come true for majority of the world? You get paid 200k!!!
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u/madmaxturbator Mar 21 '23
I have a job where I do meetings all day. Hellish considering I’m a mad introvert
My god can you imagine if someone told me they’d pay me to just sit around quietly …? And this maniac went on social media to chat shit about that amazing situation lol
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u/seriouscaffeine Mar 21 '23
She posted this recently, almost a year after being fired
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u/jemichael100 Mar 21 '23
Getting paid $190k to be bored is different than getting paid minimum wage to be bored. (I used to work as an arcade attendant for a rundown arcade)
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u/chowderbags Mar 21 '23
Yep. It's one thing to work a $190k job and feel stressed out all the time because your projects are hard. That can definitely get to you eventually. But $190k for a pillowy soft cushioned gig? Yeah, that's not so bad. You want to have challenge in your life? Get a fucking hobby.
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u/beegeepee Mar 21 '23
You would be surprised at how miserable a boring job can be. I say this as a lazy person who doesn't like to work, and it still eats away at me. I even have access to the internet/youtube/chess.com/lichess/etc. and it still can feel like the longest days ever
It always feels like I should be doing something, but in reality there is nothing to do.
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u/NarutoRunner Mar 21 '23
It’s so dumb. Literally every future employer will come across those videos if they Google her.
She is probably never going to make that amount of money again or work in tech.
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u/ChocoboToes Mar 21 '23
The paranoia of someone finding out would eventually eat you alive. I spent a year and a half making 100k working from home with nothing to do. First half was great, but eventually it becomes ridiculous and you spend your days wracked with worry and constantly feeling like you’ll be laid off the next day.
While Tik Tok still isn’t a good idea, I started to apply to jobs.
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u/saggy_balls Mar 21 '23
I had one job a few years back, making about the same, and having no work to do. I would come in around 9, hang out in the lounge (tech company, so there was a pool table etc), take 2 hour lunches, leave at 3 to go to the company gym, and be home before 5. In addition to what you stated it also (a) gets really fucking boring, and (b) if you’re still early in your career and have ambitions beyond your current role, you aren’t learning shit. It took me about 6 months until I started looking for jobs, and another 6 before I left. I do sometimes miss the downtime as my current job is the opposite and I’m putting in 60 hour weeks, but at the same time I more than doubled my salary since I left which never would have happened if I stayed. Although…if I were making $200k instead of $100k, I probably would have rode it out a bit longer.
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u/Ruhsuck Mar 21 '23
That's the way not burning down the golden goose with no backup plan
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u/CorporateSympathizer Mar 21 '23
So she was forced to quit because she posted multiple tiktok vidoes saying she did nothing at Meta while actively working at Meta and being warned not to post about her work...
I would have just chilled and collected the paycheck. Screw tiktok "fame".
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u/walkslikeaduck08 Mar 21 '23
I’m sure her colleagues were like STFU, you’re ruining it for all of us.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Read959 Mar 21 '23
That was my first job. It took me 2 months to realise that my team did not do anything.
I stayed there for 2 years.
Did I make the most of the opportunity and learn new skills ?
No.
I got high everyday and watched YouTube.
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u/notmoleliza Mar 21 '23
I took a temp job a long long time ago before my grad school stuff started. working for a DSL (remember that?) company. i had no computer skills.
my job was to assemble training manuals. literally print the manual then put it in a binder. not actually train, not develop new plans, no digitize anything, not recruit. literally print a huge manual and put it in a three ring binder
it was like $30 an hour which would probably be like 70 now.
also that company no longer exists
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u/TB12-SN13 Mar 21 '23
Jesus, I make a lil over $30 an hour (today) and I’m an attorney. I really should have gone to binder finishing school…
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u/hendrix320 Mar 21 '23
What kind of attorney makes only $30 an hour? I work in construction and make more than that by a decent amount
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u/Useless_Corrections Mar 21 '23
Public service and non profit work for attorneys doesn’t pay much. Source: I am a nonprofit attorney.
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u/doubled2319888 Mar 21 '23
You made not earn much money but you have definitely earned my respect. Thank you for fighting for people who truly need it
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u/Useless_Corrections Mar 21 '23 •
Thanks but I don’t deserve much respect. At least lately. Got really sick toward the end of last year and since then I’ve been useless. Probably should quit but it can be hard to leave a job you’ve done for years and used to be good at. But there are a lot of good people trying their best to keep things running for those at the bottom. Just not sure I’m one of them anymore. Anyway, thanks Internet stranger for reading this. It feels strangely good to finally be honest about it all.
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u/pmormr Mar 21 '23
The big secret with law is that the majority of new attorneys make about that much. The top 5-10% get the flashy six figure big law salaries right off the bat (with ridiculous hours required), the rest have to grind quite a few years to pay off their loans and gain experience in their niche before they start getting ahead. Obviously end of career prospects are pretty good but it's not an easy path to walk at the beginning.
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u/Ordinary_Plantain_93 Mar 21 '23
They still hiring?
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u/diet_shasta_orange Mar 21 '23
I did a similar thing for about a year. This was in finance. I had been a consultant but had recently been hired as a regular employee for the exact same role. My very good manager left and took half the team with her. My new manager was her manager, so like 6 levels above me and not even located in the same country. We had a monthly meeting that he always canceled. I'd show up late and take 2-3 hour lunch breaks. I went on a two week vacation and didn't say anything other than that I'd be working remotely. I check my emails maybe 3 times over that period. Eventually they gave me $25K and fired me
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u/LikedCascade Mar 21 '23
I feel that is sorta my current job. I have technical writing assignments, but on an hour-to-hour and day-to-day basis nobody has any idea what I’m doing
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u/TK_TK_ Mar 21 '23 •
Good! I have a technical writer on my team who spends part of her days walking her dogs, antiquing & making keto energy things. These activities make her happy and fulfilled and happy, fulfilled people produce great work. I’m paying for the right to have her produce that great work for me & this company, not for the right to have her sit in front of a screen 40 hours a week. She’s highly skilled and her work is always on time—I’m paying for that skill and experience.
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u/SupplyChainPhd Mar 21 '23
This is the attitude more companies should have! After spending X,XXX hours to learn a skill, I want you to use that skill for this specific work. You no longer should need to prove your worth by how much time you spend on said task. One very smart person I know calls this a shift from labor to capital.
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u/tilhow2reddit Mar 21 '23
I manage a team of Systems Administrators, and another team of Network Engineers. They're all remote. They're all project based. I typically don't give a singular fuck what they do during the day. They have a project, and a timeline. I treat them like adults and expect them to act accordingly.
You got shit to do outside of work, during "normal hours" fine, cool, go do it. If you can work on your stuff on your laptop from the oil change place/doctor/vet/etc great, if not, do it tonight, or tomorrow. Just let me know so I don't try to schedule a meeting between you, me, and another team during a time when you're away from your computer.
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u/SupplyChainPhd Mar 21 '23
Right?? This is when it becomes important to keep your calendar up to date. Trying to have an impromptu call? I’ll respond to the request on slack from le phone, but if I’m not at my PC, that’s a no go.
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u/DanRFinancial Mar 21 '23
It can be the right perspective for creative work. If you're going to write the next code that saves a billion people three seconds five times a day, then you don't need to produce a lot.
It doesn't really work if you're a roofer or a kindergarten teacher though.
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u/MrBlueW Mar 21 '23
Man I wish, I do QA for a software company and we have to be productive like 99% of the time because everything is tracked. If our billable hours are down we get threatened with layoffs.
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u/TK_TK_ Mar 21 '23
Ugh, I’m sorry! I had a job with billable hours once and basically started thinking in 15-min increments. I was honestly so much less productive than I am now. Never again.
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u/G8kpr Mar 21 '23
It's not easy to motivate yourself like that.
I worked a nightshift for several years. Some nights were just dead. Nothing to do. Some people slept, others watched youtube, some read books.
I remember thinking "oh yeah, I'm going to start learning this skill or that skill" but yeah, it works for a few days, but then you start to find yourself surfing the net, talking to employees, or especially at night, feeling tired.
Also, there was always this looming threat of work coming in at any time. You never knew when. So often you'd get into something, then get contacted by someone at another office to work on something. "oh, damn.. oh well. Put a pin in that, and do actual work now."
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u/cC2Panda Mar 21 '23
I got assigned to help parking at the RV lot at a speedway one summer. The thing about RV people is that they all show up day 1 between 6am and 8am the first day of any large events and were mostly self sufficient, but they sleep in the RV so any event longer than 1 day I literally just hung out with folks tailgating for the rest of the event.
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u/LeLupe Mar 21 '23
What was it if you don’t mind divulging
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u/Puzzleheaded_Read959 Mar 21 '23 edited Mar 21 '23
Look for a large company which has been around for 60+ years. If it’s an oil company you have hit the jackpot because they outsource most of their actual work.
Your job becomes waiting for people to respond to your email.
You must not take initiative because there are work processes established which must be followed.
When you receive a response to your email you then send it to other people to confirm the information is correct before you include it in any documents.
It’s very easy to be forgotten in those companies.
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u/walkslikeaduck08 Mar 21 '23
Also, follow up when those people are out on PTO. “Yep, I followed up and am waiting for them to get back to me”
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u/InterdisciplinaryDol Mar 21 '23
Schedule all my follow-ups at like 12:00 AM because it makes me look like a hardworker and if it gets missed, I did my best.
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u/cookiebasket2 Mar 21 '23
Hah I used to work nights, and the rule was that we had to send follow up emails on 3 different days before closing out tickets.
Would send it at 10 pm day one, send it at 10 pm on day two, and then four hours later send it at 2 am day 3, close out the ticket.
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u/tom_fuckin_bombadil Mar 21 '23 edited Mar 21 '23
I had a job like that. It was setting up new products in our SAP systems. The actual set up process was damn easy…fill in a handful of fields based off of information provided to you in a form (stuff like weight of the product, name of the product, what product families it would belong to, etc). I would be given a 3 or 4 day turnaround to do a task that would take 15 minutes. And I’d probably be given a handful of new products to do in any given week. So it amounted to an hour of focused work per day.
It becomes a weird limbo that is not enjoyable after awhile. Your manager will constantly ask what you have been up to in regular check ins and you’re kinda torn between lying and appearing more busy than you truly are or telling the truth and potentially being let go because your job can easily be split up between other colleagues and your role being eliminated. Your day to day becomes very boring and nothing you do is actually personally rewarding. Going on vacations can be a little nerve wracking “oh god they’ll see that while I was gone for 2 weeks barely any work was needed to be done!”
I guess it’s like those teachers in NYC that are “under review” for years that can’t be fired but can’t teach and are stuck going to the some room in the school board to do nothing for 8 hours five times a week waiting for their case to be resolved.
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u/Vlyn Mar 21 '23
It depends, if you can do remote work from home it would be awesome.
If you are stuck in an office and have to look busy it can be hell. I had that back in the day, could get my work for the month done in a week and a half or so. Then just played on my phone or read stuff. It was still exhausting because every time someone walked by or the boss was there I had to appear busy.
Got into software development, now I'm actually busy all the time with plenty more work on top. Ah well.
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u/Your_Daddy_ Mar 21 '23
Exactly.
I work with a guy that was being a "squeeky wheel" at work.
Dude kept complaining about petty shit to the owner, stuff about company standards, and how this other employee in another state does things he doesn't agree with - dumb shit.
One day he was complaining at his desk about how so and so did this, and blah, blah, blah ... and the owner looks to me, and goes "...well what is your process when you do this?"
Now - I do my work, and I do good work - so I dont need some loud mouth causing the owner of the company to start questioning my methods, or putting me in a position to answer unsolicited questions from my boss, when all I am doing is minding my own F'n business.
So after the boss walked away I laid into the dude - told him STFU already and just do his damn job instead of complaining - otherwise the boss is going to get annoyed and drop the hammer on everyone.
He got all hurt and quiet, but whatever - I felt kinda bad cause I didn't really mince words, but fuck - get a clue, guy!
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u/KneeDeepInTheDead Mar 21 '23
Had a coworker who landed a pretty cushy position that basically did nothing. Nobody monitored her hours so she was racking up overtime as well. Well I guess she thought she was hot shit so she started trying to push certain people around. When it didnt work she went to higher ups to complain, and when they did nothing, she went to the owner. Not sure what she was expecting but the owner does not like being pestered about anything unless its absolutely crucial, especially when its nonsense drama. He then basically half promoted her but told her she had to learn the full system. So he sent her to the very bottom to learn every position from the top up. She went from not doing shit all day except chit chatting and eating snacks to doing the most detailed oriented order processing. She fucked up constantly and we let her go.
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u/Capt-Crap1corn Mar 21 '23
Good job. So many people don't realize the value in shutting the fuck up. I get it, maybe dude's life is boring, but don't come to work stirring up shit and getting everyone under the microscope. That's annoying,
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u/obsterwankenobster Mar 21 '23
I was told once that you should never divulge any more information than is necessary, and that shit will change your life
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u/Capt-Crap1corn Mar 21 '23
This is very true. I learned the hard way. Oh man, if they ever say we are like a family at work, run or never say shit!
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u/Your_Daddy_ Mar 21 '23 edited Mar 21 '23
For real. Especially when things are pretty Cush.
Another instance that happened recently …
Not a squeaky wheel, but a dumb fuck ruining a perk for everyone. For awhile my company was getting pretty lax with hours. Office normally closes at 4, but I was working till like 5:30-6 and staring the day a little later in the morning.
Well, this receptionist girl started parking her car in the back lot since her tags are expired, and one day she left and didn’t lock the back door to the shop.
Me being last to leave, normally the back is locked up and I’m only responsible for setting the alarm and locking the front, and I wasn’t aware anyone was parking back there.
Anyway - door gets left unlocked - next morning the warehouse manager sends out a blast email about how he got in this morning to an unlocked shop, etc.
Now I look like a dick, and the owners crack down on office hours. It’s very annoying.
Some people!
That was a few months ago, and things getting more relaxed again, so that’s cool.
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u/M_Mich Mar 21 '23
had one similar, coworker stayed late to make up for coming in late, guy from cleaning crew knocks on door, he lets him in, guy starts cleaning, coworker leaves late like normal. turned out the cleaning guy had been fired that morning from the cleaning contractor, let his accomplices in, and they stole every laptop that wasn’t secured w a cable.
so then we get discussions about who we let in and all the laptops, monitors, and desktops have to be cable locked to a desk if you didn’t take it home.
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u/Pie-Otherwise Mar 21 '23
15 minutes of fame. Most people can't realize it's a good thing and STFU.
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u/phargoh Mar 21 '23
She didn't actually tell on herself. She posted other videos that Meta didn't like, which eventually lost her the job, but she wasn't saying she did nothing at work. Considering she claims she never made tiktoks before working at Meta, she should have just stopped after she got a couple warnings. Meta went over all her videos, even ones where she never named Meta, to have stuff against her, asking her if they were "appropriate". She's only telling on herself now that she doesn't work there anymore.
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u/arenalr Mar 21 '23
Ahh, telling on herself to future employers. "So tell me about your time at Meta... because your tiktoks claim you don't really have the experience your resume claims"
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u/fnmikey Mar 21 '23
I had one of those jobs for about 2 years, then they paid me to go to college after they laid me off...
Not good money, but easy money and free college
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u/TinyBig_Jar0fPickles Mar 21 '23
And this will affect many of her future prospects. You think future recruiters or HR will not find these videos.
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u/FatScout Mar 21 '23
Yep that's the funniest part about all this. No company is going to go near her for a role now.
Literally destroyed her own future for irrelevant internet clout.
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u/Thediciplematt Mar 21 '23
Recruiters at meta got the axe too. They legit were told not to work and it has been that way for months. Had a friend as a higher up in recruiting and she’s been bored since November.
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u/FiendishHawk Mar 21 '23
If I was paid not to work I’d have SO many personal projects to do
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u/zkareface Mar 21 '23
I'm in IT and haven't don't anything at work for 9 months now. It gets boring few months in.
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u/Clean_Command_4897 Mar 21 '23
Tik Tok has also made followers pointless. I have multiple friends with over 100K followers and it does nothing for their careers. They also only get about 500 views a video now.
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u/TheSheetSlinger Mar 21 '23
The only money you really make from Tiktok is when you get big enough that companies start paying you to advertise their shit. You'd need a ludicrous amount of loyal followers to actually make a career off tik tok alone.
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u/Clean_Command_4897 Mar 21 '23
For sure, but comparing it to twitter or instagram over the years, having 100k would be a big deal. Now nobody cares. Being an influencer has become even more meaningless.
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u/Careful_Houndoom Mar 21 '23
Mate, I have NEVER posted a video on Tiktok, I have over a 1,000. Where are they coming from? The numbers seems arbitrary by this metric.
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u/thoggins Mar 21 '23
Probably bots hoping for a follow back if it's anything like other social media
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u/JacqueMorrison Mar 21 '23
Either stupid or had enough money to not care. My guess is A.
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u/Harry_Buttock Mar 21 '23
You're probably correct. HR and recruiters are generally the dumbest ass people on the planet outside of Congress.
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u/bombayblue Mar 21 '23
Yeah that’s exactly what I expected from a recruiter at Meta
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u/reverielagoon1208 Mar 21 '23
My sister is a meta recruiter and she’s an evil selfish moron so yeah that tracks
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u/bombayblue Mar 21 '23
I’m sorry you’ll have to be more specific that could be ninety percent of recruiters out there
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u/sobe86 Mar 21 '23
To counter this - I had someone contact me from Meta, and I was really impressed by the amount of effort they'd gone to, this was not like a "I see you know C++, how about a front end job", this was someone who actually had built up a solid dossier of what I had done, and they even skimmed an old talk I'd done at a conference that wasn't in my LinkedIn. His pitch seemed to be completely tailored to the stuff I'm interested in. Most impressed I've ever been by a recruiter. (disclaimer - I don't work there)
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u/calculon11 Mar 21 '23 edited Mar 22 '23
Yea, their recruitment process was legit. Honestly, better than most places I've interviewed. I also do not work there.
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u/XxRaynerxX Mar 21 '23
Omg she’s a recruiter and making 190k a year…. This all makes so much more sense
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u/J_Dabson002 Mar 21 '23 •
What kind of company pays recruiters 190k a year lmao
Anyone can do their job
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u/Gordath Mar 21 '23
Not many can do that job well. But they can't either...
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u/Fabtacular1 Mar 21 '23
Yup. Especially for technical positions, the cost of bad hires can be calamitous. They generally hang on 12-18 months while making everyone’s job harder and taking up people’s time documenting their bad work and trying to get them on an improvement plan.
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u/DM-Mormon-Underwear Mar 21 '23
Generally recruiters aren't exactly the final decision makers on hiring someone though right? They just bring them in. It should fall on the relevant departments to vet anyone who would be joining their team.
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u/Ursa_Mid Mar 21 '23
Tell your spouse: sure. Tell your friends: maybe. Tell your co-workers: probably not. Tell the world on Tik Tok: You're a fucking moron.
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u/najinanidad Mar 21 '23
That’s why I always use the Costanza method: walk around briskly looking irritated all the time, and people will think you’re busy.
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u/MysteriousCommon6876 Mar 21 '23
Got fired so she could have TikTok fame which pays…nothing!
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u/FakeItSALY Mar 21 '23
Article says the videos have like 215k views. That’s like… a cup of coffee from what I’ve seen. The idea of getting “internet famous” is to get paid and have a low stress job. Which she had.
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u/MysteriousCommon6876 Mar 21 '23
Also it says she was talked to once before about her videos. After that first talking to you DELETE your account
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u/AiDueDeclaire Mar 21 '23
From what I can tell, being Internet famous is not low stress. It's constantly searching for the next shock material or something to make people envious.
Being a recruiter with nothing to do and making a well above average salary is definitely low stress. This girl f'd up and now any Google search to a new employer reveils what she's about, so good luck finding another gig even close to what she had. Just pure stupidity.
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u/FreezingRobot Mar 21 '23
I love these instances where an employee loudly shit-talks their employer online, gets told to stop, and then makes the surprised Pikachu face when they get canned after refusing.
This lady, as a former recruiter, should probably be aware that future employers are going to google her name, and when this comes up, guess what.
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u/scatmanbynight Mar 22 '23
She quit the day before she was to be laid off. Which could mean she just just gave up a month or so of severance.
This person is a fucking idiot.
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u/wonkagloop Mar 21 '23
Cutting fat that wasn’t needed, looks like someone in Meta paid closer attention to audit and trim.
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u/KevinDean4599 Mar 21 '23
A lot of folks in talent acquisition in tech have worked their butt off over the past few years trying to secure the best talent. Hiring managers rely on them to screen etc since they usually don’t have the time to do this themselves while taking care of regular work. With the demand for recruiters the wages offered jumped a lot. Now we are in a period of slow hiring and many recruiters are losing their jobs and will have a harder time finding new ones and may have to take pay cuts and move into non tech industries. It’s cyclical. Eventually tech companies will be hiring like crazy again. But she was an idiot for posting something like that. Really unprofessional and with it going viral she’s likely to have a hard time working as a recruiter at a big company again
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u/Few-Focus1686 Mar 21 '23
I’m at a fortune 100 in Tech TA and I can tell you this, META TA was alarming to so many since 2020.
No or barely salary bands, crazy amount of stock options and sign bonuses. I know a lot of people that went there and it’s not shocking at all these stories are coming out. It’s gonna hurt a lot of people that are actually good recruiters, because someone posted how shitty their work ethic was.
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u/creepystepdad72 Mar 21 '23
The entitlement level in these FAANG stories keep getting weirder. It's everything from "you took away my free daily massage, so there should never be layoffs" to "How dare you not have work for me based on the amount you pay me."
The frustrating part in all of this is the tech downturn affects more than $275K/yr. big name company hires. There's a lot of amazing folks that've worked their tails off for years at smaller organizations (and MUCH smaller salaries) who have been let go during the current environment.
We aren't hearing those stories and it makes tech workers look (broadly) terrible.
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u/dassix1 Mar 21 '23
I work in FAANG and this is exactly on the spot! For example, the last round of layoffs affected a peer (on another team). He's made $275k+ for years now and has decided to spend the next 1-2 years travelling Europe, before coming back and deciding which home of the three he wants to spend most of his time in before potentially applying for another position.
Another peer that was let go, has not yet moved up to this pay grade and spent years being underpaid to acquire the experience and resume to be able successfully become hired by FAANG. Although they do similar work, their life experiences during this couldn't be more different.
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u/CarbonTrebles Mar 21 '23
Appropriate LinkedIn posts aside, how hard is it to not post anything about work on social media? Pretty f'ing hard for a lot of people, evidently.
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u/kobeyoboy Mar 21 '23
I’m not mad or upset that this individual got to get wealthier by working for meta during a period where she didn’t have to do “nothing”. I wish I had this opportunity I do think I would have done more then just laugh about how I’m getting paid at a job with no responsibilities. But hey I can still dream
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u/imatworksup Mar 21 '23
No one just starts out doing nothing, it just kinda happens over time. Speaking from experience, you slowly realize that no one cares and you're busting your ass for nothing.
You work hard on a project to make things better, and the higher ups say "thanks for your work on this" and do nothing. You realize the tasks you do pretty much serve no purpose whatsoever, and nothing happens if they're not done. No one notices, there's no negative impact, and you've pretty much hit a ceiling for what you can add to your resume from the experience, so you just start doing the bare minimum.
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u/jrwolf08 Mar 21 '23
Isn't that super boring?
I had an internship where they didn't give me anything to do, and I was just bored all day.
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u/woaharedditacc Mar 21 '23
If you're sitting in a boring grey office, yeah it would be boring.
If you're WFH and can do anything, not really.
Even if you're at these tech offices, you have free restaurants and coffee shops, rest/nap areas, gyms, etc. so you can pretty easily not get bored while doing zero work.
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u/NotsoNewtoGermany Mar 21 '23
Most likely Meta decided that it was benefitial to have recruiters on payroll even during a time when they aren't recruiting, so that when they start recruiting, they have a trained and skilled workforce on hand to hire the best candidates.
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u/encony Mar 21 '23 edited Mar 21 '23
I think the phenomenon of having people employed that contribute effectively nothing to the company is not limited to big tech. Just think about it, Meta has a few departments that bring in more money than they can spend, a few people that keep the system running and the rest are bystanders, free-riders and people who think they are important by making key decisions but in the end, no one knows if those decisions were good as there is never a check if the alternative would have been better and if ChatGPT would have made the decision, chances of success or failure are equally likely.
We don't need so many working people yet working and collecting money is required to simply survive in our society.
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u/Keudn883 Mar 21 '23
I think the phenomenon of having people employed that contribute effectively nothing to the company is not limited to big tech.
It's like this across every industry. Sometimes you just need a warm body sitting in a chair for that rare situation that they're needed. My neighbor worked for a bank and made over 200k a year. For the last ten years of his career he drove to a remote disaster recovery site and read the newspaper for 55 of the 56 weeks of the years. That other week? Disaster recovery testing. It was cheaper to pay someone to sit in a chair and do nothing 99% of the time then it was to be down for more then ten minutes.
This isn't isolated to just IT jobs.
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u/mattred33 Mar 21 '23
For the last ten years of his career he drove to a remote disaster recovery site and read the newspaper for 55 of the 56 weeks of the years. That other week? Disaster recovery testing.
Well no wonder they paid him so much, he was able to squeeze 4 extra weeks into every year! Unfortunately my years are only a little over 52 weeks long.
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u/xarahn Mar 21 '23
Sir, there are 52 weeks in a year, not sure where you got your 56 from.
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u/drawkbox Mar 21 '23
Dude is out here working so hard he is adding weeks to the year. Bonus material 😂
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u/chimerasaurus Mar 21 '23
I see a lot of comments about sitting and letting the paychecks roll in.
The other side of this, this person has made life substantially more complicated for finding their next role. Even if they kept their job for a few years, a future employer will seriously question hiring someone who leaks on TikTok.
Their future earnings pale in comparison to lost wages for a year or two, IMO.
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u/_maxthunder Mar 21 '23
Imagine making almost $200k/yr and blowing it up because you can’t resist the urge to post TikTok videos.
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u/NoMoreSecretsMarty Mar 21 '23
The most popular drug in America is dopamine. This is basically the equivalent of sucking dick under a freeway so you can afford a drug you have to buy outright.
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u/ResidentMD317 Mar 21 '23
I swear. Young people these days should know about the consequences of airing dirty laundry on the internet, including social media sites. But you still see these stories every day. Their fleeting moment of fame will haunt their entire "professional" career or whatever is left of it. Perhaps getting a name change might help.
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u/Toeknee818 Mar 21 '23
Feel like it's going to be every generation's growing pains from now on. Learning how to just STFU is a life skill.
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u/MIKET330 Mar 21 '23
like Big Head in Silicon Valley. He worked for Hooli!!!